Victor Dashkov

I don't think Lissa would make for a good Queen right now. I think she's still too young. To rule well, a person needs some wisdom, and with age comes wisdom. Also, I don't see more 'adult' Moroi voting for or respecting a kid.

Ivashkov wrote:

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I don't think Lissa would make for a good Queen right now. I think she's still too young. To rule well, a person needs some wisdom, and with age comes wisdom. Also, I don't see more 'adult' Moroi voting for or respecting a kid.

I can't see the older ones voting for her either. She's barely 18, definitely not ruling material.

SecretMagic wrote:

Ivashkov wrote:

I know what you mean!

Yay, I make sense!

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I don't think Lissa would make for a good Queen right now. I think she's still too young. To rule well, a person needs some wisdom, and with age comes wisdom. Also, I don't see more 'adult' Moroi voting for or respecting a kid.

I can't see the older ones voting for her either. She's barely 18, definitely not ruling material.

What about if angel Princess Lissa had Christian with her?Would the elder ruling Moroi vote for Lissa, then?

Er...no.... a lot of the moroi dont like the Ozeras

Yeah, I'm with Chris on that one. They'd definitely be reluctant to vote for her then. Despite all the positive things Christian has done to help Moroi, he's just not trusted by then. I wonder how he'll be treated now that he helped kill so many Strigoi though? He was locked up in Spokane, so the Moroi could still have doubts about where his alligance was, but now that he burnt up so many of them, perhaps they'll start taking him seriously.

Ivashkov wrote:

Er...no.... a lot of the moroi dont like the Ozeras

That's because of that fiasco that occured to Christian's parents, right?

That's right . Personally I think is stupid.....but I can't change what the moroi ppl think

Ivashkov wrote:

That's right . Personally I think is stupid.....but I can't change what the moroi ppl think

Or can you?

Do you think is possible ?

I have high hopes

It could work without the need for Compulsion?

I don't think so..

They won't give Lissa enough respect to actually listen to Lissa, even with Christian by her side, would they?

I think Lissa has a better chance of being listened to if she's not with Christian, though asking her to give up the person she loves might prove to be difficult.

SecretMagic wrote:

I think Lissa has a better chance of being listened to if she's not with Christian, though asking her to give up the person she loves might prove to be difficult.

But why should she have to give up her sexual mate/lover, SecretMagic?

Especially when the Dragomirs are already endangered enough, as it is, for that matter.

I don't think she should have to give him up. I was just saying that without Christian I think the other Moroi would be more likely to pay attention to her. At the moment I doubt the moroi take their relationship seriously, but once they discover how strong it is they might face a few more problems.

SecretMagic wrote:

I don't think she should have to give him up. I was just saying that without Christian I think the other Moroi would be more likely to pay attention to her. At the moment I doubt the moroi take their relationship seriously, but once they discover how strong it is they might face a few more problems.

Problems like what, SecretMagic?That Christian might also be a possible ruler, for instance, while Lissa becomes Queen?

There's the possibility he'd be used to get to her, to sway her view, or be used (indirectly) as the excuse to refuse what she puts forward. They might even believe he's influencing her. They all know Tasha's view on using Moroi magic to fight the strigoi, and it's fairly obvious Christian would side with his aunt. Then here comes Lissa talking about the same topics. They might blame him for putting ideas into her head.
Though I'm sure they fear your suggestion too. They're all so scared he's going to go the same way as his parents, and having a "potentional" strigoi on the throne probably wouldn't sit well with the community. We all know he's not like that, but I'm not sure the rest of the Moroi would be as aware of his loyalties.
I also don't know what the senior Moroi officials are going to think about using magic as a weapon after they discover what Jesse and Ralph were doing on campus. Sure the magic thing worked well fighting the strigoi, but they wouldn't have needed to use it if the Moroi students hadn't been trying to fight each other with their magic in the first place.

SecretMagic wrote:

There's the possibility he'd be used to get to her, to sway her view, or be used (indirectly) as the excuse to refuse what she puts forward. They might even believe he's influencing her. They all know Tasha's view on using Moroi magic to fight the strigoi, and it's fairly obvious Christian would side with his aunt. Then here comes Lissa talking about the same topics. They might blame him for putting ideas into her head.
Though I'm sure they fear your suggestion too. They're all so scared he's going to go the same way as his parents, and having a "potential" strigoi on the throne probably wouldn't sit well with the community. We all know he's not like that, but I'm not sure the rest of the Moroi would be as aware of his loyalties.
I also don't know what the senior Moroi officials are going to think about using magic as a weapon after they discover what Jesse and Ralph were doing on campus. Sure the magic thing worked well fighting the strigoi, but they wouldn't have needed to use it if the Moroi students hadn't been trying to fight each other with their magic in the first place.

But Christian isn't a sexual abuser at all, not to Lissa, wasn't he?

And to be honest, getting the Moroi Students to use their magic on the Strigoi Vamps honestly makes a lot more sense than just to use it upon each other, as at least it creates productive results...it's true that Violence isn't always the answer, as it's best used as a last resort thing...and when it comes to the Strigoi, it's a last resort thing, isn't it?

No, I never thought Christian abused Lissa in any way. I just think some of his background and the stereotypes that surround him could be used against them by the evil twisted Moroi royals.

I think using their magic against strigoi makes sense too, but when reviewed later down the track what are the Moroi going to see most: Smart students who used their magic wisely to prevent too many deaths; or The evils of magic which, by being used as an offensive weapon, caused the long developed mode of safety (the wards) to brake and allow hundreds of strigoi to enter a heavily guarded moroi/dhampir facility?

SecretMagic wrote:

No, I never thought Christian abused Lissa in any way. I just think some of his background and the stereotypes that surround him could be used against them by the evil twisted Moroi royals.

I think using their magic against strigoi makes sense too, but when reviewed later down the track what are the Moroi going to see most: Smart students who used their magic wisely to prevent too many deaths; or The evils of magic which, by being used as an offensive weapon, caused the long developed mode of safety (the wards) to brake and allow hundreds of strigoi to enter a heavily guarded moroi/dhampir facility?

That would depend greatly on which students are we talking about who are using magic, and for whatever reasons, for that matter, as it's not often that we even hear of the likes of Christian using it on other students unless it's to help a few friends, if the 1st V.A novel proved anything.

And that's a relief when it came to Lissa, because if that were to happen to him, someone would have asked Rose to never let him forget about it, alright?

I still think they'd be more likely to blame Moroi use of magic for the strigoi invasion, than to look at the positives it brought about during the fight.

SecretMagic wrote:

I still think they'd be more likely to blame Moroi use of magic for the strigoi invasion, than to look at the positives it brought about during the fight.

But still, couldn't they had just make like Bright Noa and give the students who weren't using magic, responsibly, something along the lines of the famous Bright-slap, which was seen in the classical half of the Universal Century Mobile Suit Gundam Shows, S.M?

Don't tell me that you don't watch Mobile Suit:Gundam, do you?

I have to admit, I've never heard of Mobile Suit Gundam. But I think I get what you're saying: punish those who actually did something wrong. I'm sure they would still punish them, but it'll be used against the Moroi fighting-magic case. Fighting and/or training with magic is too dangerous to be taught in protected areas and to risk open spaces just to learn to use magic is almost equally as dangerous.

Well...if it counts...that moron who was a relative of the Moroi Royal that Dimitri failed to protect, was acting like the closest thing to a Blood Whore that Moroi could actually become, when he falsely accused Rose of being one, S.M....it felt so relieving when Christian had burned the said moron enough to make him think twice...that could count as a positive use, correct?