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Ivashkov Admin
Posts : 2412 Join date : 2009-06-12 Location : Hanging out with Mr. Ivashkov
| Subject: Victor Dashkov Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:36 pm | |
| What do you guys think of him ? Do you love him ? Hate him? Even after what he did , he still have a point about the moroi being weak and afraid . I hope he breaks out of prison and start his revolution. It'll be very interesting to see something like that on the books. After all...... People can be bought off . V.D | |
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Ballroomdancer13
Posts : 487 Join date : 2009-02-20 Location : Toronto
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:45 pm | |
| I'm not really a fan of Victor. He convinced his own daughter to turn Strigoi FFS!
I do hate to say that he *did* have a point about the Moroi. It was proven a few times in the books. And the only thing the Moroi seemed to be good at was spreading rumours and fighting with each other. | |
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SecretMagic
Posts : 3290 Join date : 2009-06-11 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:07 pm | |
| I don't like him, but I find him interesting. I mean, he hardly cared that he was on trial or in gaol/jail (which ever spelling works best for you), so there must be something else he has up his sleeve. | |
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Ivashkov Admin
Posts : 2412 Join date : 2009-06-12 Location : Hanging out with Mr. Ivashkov
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:30 am | |
| I think that at some point he'll break out of prison . I would like to see something like that | |
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SecretMagic
Posts : 3290 Join date : 2009-06-11 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:07 am | |
| - Ivashkov wrote:
- I think that at some point he'll break out of prison . I would like to see something like that
Me too. It'd definitely be interesting to see what he's capable of doing outside once again, now that he knows all that Lissa and Rose are capable of doing. Before it was mainly guess-work, he was never 100% sure of Spirit. And I'm almost positive he'd have spys somewhere: If you're rich, dying, your only daughter was killed and you were in gaol I think it'd be safe to put your money to good use. | |
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jedibarrister Admin
Posts : 300 Join date : 2008-12-31
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:15 am | |
| I think he can effectively rule and control from inside the prison. I frankly think he's the one who's coordinating the Strigoi so effectively. That's why he had no hesitation to ask Natalie to turn Strigoi for him. | |
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Hanner
Posts : 142 Join date : 2009-03-10
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:28 pm | |
| He would be behind something so diabolical...I mean they did mention that Strigoi never convened in such large groups, i don't think they would all of a sudden have this realization "Ohhhhh, so if we all get to together we could take over!", they would have thought about that before... There has to be something different about this time or something... | |
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SecretMagic
Posts : 3290 Join date : 2009-06-11 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:50 pm | |
| But if he was behind it his purpose isn't to wipe out the Moroi, it's to prove to them how defenceless the Moroi are these days by taking on a passive role in society. It would seem kind of harsh to have so many people destroyed to prove a point if we didn't already know he was capable of sacrificing some in order to move forward slightly (ie. Natalie and his Guardians) | |
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Ivashkov Admin
Posts : 2412 Join date : 2009-06-12 Location : Hanging out with Mr. Ivashkov
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:28 am | |
| I think , that if at some point he does break out of jail . He'll fight against the strigoi . After all that was his plan since the beginning . | |
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SecretMagic
Posts : 3290 Join date : 2009-06-11 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:40 am | |
| - Ivashkov wrote:
- I think , that if at some point he does break out of jail . He'll fight against the strigoi . After all that was his plan since the beginning .
Oh, I think he'd fight against them too. But I wouldn't be surprised if he set them up in the first place. | |
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Hanner
Posts : 142 Join date : 2009-03-10
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:35 am | |
| Well, wasn't his original goal to rule the moroi? And he couldn't do so because he was too sick, so thats why he abused Lissa's power. Then, I think he might be building up the strigoi so that the moroi need help in dealing with them, so since he is the one who organized them he thinks he can stop them. But then to his suprise he wont be able to, so then it will be a battle royale type of thing in the end... or at least i hope so =] | |
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SecretMagic
Posts : 3290 Join date : 2009-06-11 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:04 pm | |
| - Hanner wrote:
- Well, wasn't his original goal to rule the moroi? And he couldn't do so because he was too sick, so thats why he abused Lissa's power. Then, I think he might be building up the strigoi so that the moroi need help in dealing with them, so since he is the one who organized them he thinks he can stop them. But then to his suprise he wont be able to, so then it will be a battle royale type of thing in the end... or at least i hope so =]
Oo, that would be an interesting twist! And I forgot about him wanting to rule the Moroi (hard part to forget, but I did). So his goal is not only to bring the Moroi into the fighting world, but prove he is the most capable leader for the Moroi. That could certainly back-fire | |
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Ballroomdancer13
Posts : 487 Join date : 2009-02-20 Location : Toronto
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:48 pm | |
| What I'd like to know is how long the effects of his hit off Lissa's power will last. She said in the first book that the 'treatment' wouldn't last forever. So how long before he starts deteriorating again? And plus, if he's going to deteriorate again...do you think anyone would be crazy enough to give him another dose of Spirit? | |
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Ivashkov Admin
Posts : 2412 Join date : 2009-06-12 Location : Hanging out with Mr. Ivashkov
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:51 am | |
| Lisa would....if she sees that he is dying . She is just too good | |
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SecretMagic
Posts : 3290 Join date : 2009-06-11 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:10 am | |
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- Lisa would....if she sees that he is dying . She is just too good
I don't think she would. She didn't want to do it the first time, not under those circumstances at least. Even though she hates seeing people/things in pain, I don't think she'd be able to help him a second time around, especially considering he terrifies her so much. However, if he finds out about Adrian and discovers Lissa isn't the only Moroi out there with Spirit, he's likely to search for someone else who has similar Spirit powers to Lissa and he might manage to convince them to heal him. | |
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Ballroomdancer13
Posts : 487 Join date : 2009-02-20 Location : Toronto
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:14 pm | |
| I agree with Secret. I don't think Lissa would help him again. Especially not after the way he treated her the last time! And if Victor were to go after Adrian and force him to use Spirit, I think he would get a nasty surprise since Adrian isn't as good as Lissa at healing. | |
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SecretMagic
Posts : 3290 Join date : 2009-06-11 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:27 pm | |
| I also don't think Adrian would take being forced into something too lightly. He's likely to put up more of a fight than Lissa did. | |
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Ivashkov Admin
Posts : 2412 Join date : 2009-06-12 Location : Hanging out with Mr. Ivashkov
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:40 pm | |
| No , he won't . PLus he doesn't know how to heal , yet.... | |
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SecretMagic
Posts : 3290 Join date : 2009-06-11 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:40 am | |
| - Ivashkov wrote:
- No , he won't . PLus he doesn't know how to heal , yet....
True, but he may have learnt how to do it by the time Victor needs healing again. | |
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Ivashkov Admin
Posts : 2412 Join date : 2009-06-12 Location : Hanging out with Mr. Ivashkov
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:06 pm | |
| Yeah , he could....but he wont do it....plus if Rose is around , she'll make sure that Vic dont get near any of them including Adrian | |
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SecretMagic
Posts : 3290 Join date : 2009-06-11 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:24 pm | |
| - Ivashkov wrote:
- Yeah , he could....but he wont do it....plus if Rose is around , she'll make sure that Vic dont get near any of them including Adrian
I like the sound of that idea. | |
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Ivashkov Admin
Posts : 2412 Join date : 2009-06-12 Location : Hanging out with Mr. Ivashkov
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:54 pm | |
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Hanner
Posts : 142 Join date : 2009-03-10
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:46 pm | |
| Or maybe now that Dimitri is Strigoi and victor may possibly be organizing them, he will use Dimitri and Rose's connection to him against Lissa and Adrian in order to get what he wants. Afterall, he is one of the few people who actually know about Rose and Dimitri... | |
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SecretMagic
Posts : 3290 Join date : 2009-06-11 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:45 pm | |
| I'm not sure Rose and Dimitri's togetherness could be held against them much anymore. It's in the past now, and as far as the Moroi/Dhampir community is concerned Dimitri is dead and gone. Though if Victor is helping the Strigoi band together, Dimitri might be able to get the Dhampirs insider information and forewarn them of any coming attacks. | |
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Ivashkov Admin
Posts : 2412 Join date : 2009-06-12 Location : Hanging out with Mr. Ivashkov
| Subject: Re: Victor Dashkov Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:41 pm | |
| I really don't think Vic is working with the strigoi | |
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