thing with victor (will they free him if so how and with who eles's help) ;)

omg the queen would freakout her precious Dragomir and Adrian doing ilegal stuff and she already hates rose

they will need a lot of outside and inside help like guards and maybe Rose's mom and other people okasana and mark eddie it will be complicated and hare but they can do it they have each other




any other therories please coment

I think he's going to be difficult. Either that or he really won't know where Robert is.
I mean, he'd been sick for a few year, knew what signs to look for in Spirit users (ie. healing) but attacked Lissa to get her to heal him not his brother?
Or perhaps Robert and Victor aren't as close as we think they are. Victor's a Royal, Robert's only his half-brother. Perhaps they've got some sibling rivalry going on.

As to actually breaking him out. I think Abe will have a major role in that one. He just seems to be the type of person who could get it done, especially since he's already managed to track Victor down at his top-secret/high-security prison that no-one was supposed to know about.

I think that V will be dead from his disease by the time L and R get to him. Which will suck for Rose but she will figure something out. Maybe Dimitri's grandma will 'see' where Robert is. I can't wait to know what happens. I am sure Richelle will surprise us.

I don't think Victor will be dead yet. It took a few years for him to get as bad as he was in Vampire Academy, and Lissa healed him (of the worst part at least). He's only been in prison for a few months. No, he'll still be alive.

i think it will take alot of hard work for them to get victor out but i think a twist might happen and they'll get him out somehow.

i actually think victor is going to claim he knows about his brother and his whereabouts just to let Lissa and Rose break him out- after all freedom is what he values most. And i agree i think Abe will play a big role in that. But, my guess is that victors brother is dead. My theory is victor tried to get his brother to heal him- but his brother was already driven crazy from spirits affects and refused. In the process of torturing or forcing his brother to be healed. ( kinda like what he did to Lissa).. his brother died. That's just my theory.

Peace love n VA wrote:

i actually think victor is going to claim he knows about his brother and his whereabouts just to let Lissa and Rose break him out- after all freedom is what he values most. And i agree i think Abe will play a big role in that. But, my guess is that victors brother is dead. My theory is victor tried to get his brother to heal him- but his brother was already driven crazy from spirits affects and refused. In the process of torturing or forcing his brother to be healed. ( kinda like what he did to Lissa).. his brother died. That's just my theory.

Nice theory. I never really thought about whether Robert would be alive or not, I'd always been thinking about Victor giving them the information. That would make a lot more sense as to why he spent so much effort searching for Lissa, if he had his brother around to heal him he wouldn't have needed Lissa.
Unless he used his own sickness as a cover-up and what he was testing was how strong Lissa's powers were in order to heal Robert from Spirit's side-effects?

lissa could always use compulsion on vic. and make him tell them where his brother is.

CassandraC440 wrote:

lissa could always use compulsion on vic. and make him tell them where his brother is.

Ah, now there's an idea I never thought of. Nice suggestion

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Unless he used his own sickness as a cover-up and what he was testing was how strong Lissa's powers were in order to heal Robert from Spirit's side-effects?

Oh my, i was so wrapped up in Victor being so selfish i NEVER even consider he was working to HELPING another person even if by evil ways. I really like your theory of him working to find a way to heal Robert's Spirit side effects!

And the possibility of Lissa using compulsion on Victor to get answers is very likely- that is if Rose has the patience not to use brute force upon sight. lol

Peace love n VA wrote:

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Unless he used his own sickness as a cover-up and what he was testing was how strong Lissa's powers were in order to heal Robert from Spirit's side-effects?

Oh my, i was so wrapped up in Victor being so selfish i NEVER even consider he was working to HELPING another person even if by evil ways. I really like your theory of him working to find a way to heal Robert's Spirit side effects!

I've only just started considering it myself. I mean, I thought he had good ideas with the whole revolution thing before, but that he was going about it in the wrong way. He could have found someone with similar views to him instead of being the only one pushing for it and consequently ending up in prison. But if underneath it all he's trying to save his brother too, then maybe he's not so bad.
He can't exactly help Robert while he's in prison and he's supposed to be there for life. So what would be the harm in telling Abe where Robert was at the end of Blood Promise? But he doesn't because Robert is his brother and deep down he's always been trying to protect him.
That's my new theory.

i dont think finding him will take much time..i do think the trying to break him out will take some time

Peace love n VA wrote:

i dont think finding him will take much time..i do think the trying to break him out will take some time

I agree. Remember, Abe's already managed to find him, so if Rose and Abe are both working together on this then he'll already have the location for her. Of course it might take a bit of convincing on Rose's part to make them work together, but I think Abe will recognise that she has a stubborn/determined streak and will help her.

I think they're going to have the most trouble convincing victor to break out. While prison might not be a happy place to live in, they're only breaking him out for their own means. He'll want something more out of it.

SecretMagic wrote:

Peace love n VA wrote:

i dont think finding him will take much time..i do think the trying to break him out will take some time

I agree. Remember, Abe's already managed to find him, so if Rose and Abe are both working together on this then he'll already have the location for her. Of course it might take a bit of convincing on Rose's part to make them work together, but I think Abe will recognise that she has a stubborn/determined streak and will help her.

I think they're going to have the most trouble convincing victor to break out. While prison might not be a happy place to live in, they're only breaking him out for their own means. He'll want something more out of it.

Yes but what if Abe wants Rose to stay at the Academy? Do you think he will still give her his location? I mean he did ask her if she would 'make a break for it' (lack of better words..) when she was sent back to St.Vlad's...

RandD4ever wrote:

SecretMagic wrote:

Peace love n VA wrote:

i dont think finding him will take much time..i do think the trying to break him out will take some time

I agree. Remember, Abe's already managed to find him, so if Rose and Abe are both working together on this then he'll already have the location for her. Of course it might take a bit of convincing on Rose's part to make them work together, but I think Abe will recognise that she has a stubborn/determined streak and will help her.

I think they're going to have the most trouble convincing victor to break out. While prison might not be a happy place to live in, they're only breaking him out for their own means. He'll want something more out of it.

Yes but what if Abe wants Rose to stay at the Academy? Do you think he will still give her his location? I mean he did ask her if she would 'make a break for it' (lack of better words..) when she was sent back to St.Vlad's...

Well Rose only has a couple of months left at the academy. She'll probably see out the rest of her schooling and then attempt to free Victor. Abe can't really be too annoyed at that one. The fact that he sent her that message (through Adrian) to inform her that he'd already spoken to Victor proves he was still trying to keep her in the loop (or maybe Victor did give him the information, but he was trying to keep Rose away from it all) either way, he's still willing to speak to her about what he's doing in the whole Freeing-Victor-Process.

Very true... Very true... But do you think he is willing to help actually free him?

I think there's a chance he will, especially if it means he can keep an eye on Rose and help her out of danger. He may not have been in her life as a child, but to me he seems pretty damn protective of her.

I don't know... I think he will tell her the location and advise her not to do anything. I just thought of this! What if Victor gets his other followers- he did say he had others- to break him out before Rose can get to him? Then no one woud know where he is...
...Do you think she will stay for graduation?

I think she will stay for graduation, she promised. And she's a bit safer inside the Academy than out of it.

She didn't stay when she dropped out. She knew she was probably going to die when she went out to find D. That didn't stop her...

RandD4ever wrote:

She didn't stay when she dropped out. She knew she was probably going to die when she went out to find D. That didn't stop her...

But she had a different driving force that time. SHe thought she had to save him alone and without any help at all. Also, she was attempting to kill the man she loved, not bring him back to life. She left then because she had all these conflicting emotions/situations that were telling her to do something for herself and she thought finding and killing Dimitri was going to solve those conflicts for her. WHat she realised during her journey was that she needs to be with those who love her in order to pull through.
If she wants to leave and find Victor, she either has to face the same alone journey that she had going to Russia, or she waits and takes her friends (and Help) with her.

I agree with Kim!

Rose made a promise to finish and stay at the Academy until she graduates. If we know Rose, then she will never go back on that promise.

Plus, the last book she realized she cannot be apart from Lissa because stuff like Avery will happen. Also, she realized she has help in her friends and she can't do it alone.

Also, i think Abe is going to play a role in the whole victor thing- as to what part i'm not sure. But i think Abe has his own motives behind helping Rose.

She went back on her promise to Lissa when she dropped out... But I guess you guys are right... I mean she doesnt want to drop out and disappoint her mom and Alberta again...

RandD4ever wrote:

She went back on her promise to Lissa when she dropped out... But I guess you guys are right... I mean she doesnt want to drop out and disappoint her mom and Alberta again...

You know I never really considered Rose in BP was going back on her promise to Lissa. Maybe my feelings for her and Dimitri overpowers any thoughts i have about Rose and Lissa... but i didn't consider that a breaking promise sort of thing. I thought of it as a like i gotta do this to be able to do that sort of thing.