Talk about Last Sacrifice here *contains spoilers*

L.Dragomir wrote:

Reading all of your posts I've almost forgot my feelings about LS after I finished it which wasn't long like 30 mins.
It’s a good ending but I don't think LS is my favourite. I predicted a lot of what was going to happen and it didn't have me on the edge like shadow kiss and the end of SB.
I had a feeling Jill was indeed a Dragomir.
I knew Victor and Robert would show up but I didn't think Victor would meet his end at Rose's hands.
I didn't think Sonya would play such a big role in the book but I was expecting Mia to be helping out at Court to help prove Rose's innocence.
I was on the Daniella bandwagon most of the time but at the back of my mind I thought Tasha was it after finding out Ethan was on guard at Tatiana's place.
I loved that part with the Keeper that was out of the blue. I wouldn’t mind another meeting with Josh and Angeline.
Love that bit about “little dragomirs”.
I always thought the series would end with a revolution. I guess we're halfway there and it's hopefully happen in Bloodlines.
Feel bad for Adrian but maybe he'll return Jill's feeling in a few years time. Age gap doesn't really matter if we look at Dimitri and Rose’s relationship.
Felt the last few chapters were a bit rushed making LS less polished compared to the other books in the series.
Agree with you guys about no contact with the Belikov sisters. It’s weird how they found out about Dimitri being stirgoi. You’d think another guardian would make a call or a visit like they do for fallen soilders in the real world. Maybe Lissa needs to make a royal world tour including Siberia as part of her Queenly duties.

I think you're right there is a possiblity Adrian and Jill could hook up later, but her character right now is what 14, maybe when she is 16 or 17 like Rose was with Dimitri, but I don't see how Richelle could write Adrian back into her life at St. Vladmir's unless he's a teacher or hiding there in while wallowing in his sorrows. But maybe she goes to school at the Court. Then he'll stay in the story and so will Eddie and Mia. Because Vampire Acadmey isn't tied to St. Vladmirs school.

cz wrote:

I think you're right there is a possiblity Adrian and Jill could hook up later, but her character right now is what 14, maybe when she is 16 or 17 like Rose was with Dimitri, but I don't see how Richelle could write Adrian back into her life at St. Vladmir's unless he's a teacher or hiding there in while wallowing in his sorrows. But maybe she goes to school at the Court. Then he'll stay in the story and so will Eddie and Mia. Because Vampire Acadmey isn't tied to St. Vladmirs school.

Did anyone consider that maybe the spin-off will be set a few years after Rose's story? Just because some of the same characters are returning doesn't mean it's occurring immediately after Lissa becomes Queen. It might... but we don't really know enough about Bloodlines yet to be sure. Hopefully this is the kind of thing they'll be touching on in the EW exclusive.

I was thinking along those lines too.
Sometime in the future when Jill isn't jailbait anymore and has more curves etc.
I think Adrian needs time to recuperate after his break up with Rose and needs to find himself. Jill has to grow up and realise her royal heritage.

We'll find out what the deal btwn Abe and Sydney is in BL I'm sure with her being a main character.

Feeling bad for Dimitri getting Zmey as his 'father in law.' Adrian should consider him self lucky.

Usually murder mysteries go though the how but Richelle didn't and I doubt we'll ever get the full details. How exactly did Tasha get her had on that stake ? (probably stolen)

L.Dragomir wrote:

Usually murder mysteries go though the how but Richelle didn't and I doubt we'll ever get the full details. How exactly did Tasha get her had on that stake ? (probably stolen)

omg, I was just thinking the same thing earlier today. Everything else made sense except that part.

I was up until 3:30am reading (and finishing) LS... And I'm running on 2 hours of sleep and coffee vapors now but that's ok because I'm happy!!! lol...

I found the book predictable too but I think that was more because of the fact that I spent a month on here reading other people's thoughts and ideas. If I hadn't I might have been a little more surprised. Specially with Tasha being the murderer. But when I read that on here I agreed and so I wasn't shocked how that played out in the book. Same with Jill being Lissa's sister. And Lissa becoming Queen.

As for the whole Rose cheating on Adrian thing... I found it very real. It happens. Life is not perfect and characters in books shouldn't be either. Just a thought, but at the end when Adrian asks Rose about her "collateral damage" (Jill, Sydney and Eddie) I thought maybe that was a hint at three of the people in the spin-off???

I haven't really seen anyone mention Christian or the fact that the book doesn't go into detail on his reaction to Tasha being the murderer. I mean, really, this woman raised him and all it says is that it's hard for him and he visits her? That's it??? There should be more there...

That's all I can think of for now... Can't wait to see what they announce about bloodlines...

**Edit** I just had to comment on the Tasha/Rose/Dimitri triangle-setup... While I agree with the fact that it was pretty immature of a grown woman, it also made sense to me. Some people hold grudges and don't take rejection well or are just THAT petty. Once I had decided I suspected Tasha of being the murderer, I knew that had to be the reason behind setting up Rose. But I do wanna know how she got her stake... What a heffer...

StephieBee wrote:

I haven't really seen anyone mention Christian or the fact that the book doesn't go into detail on his reaction to Tasha being the murderer. I mean, really, this woman raised him and all it says is that it's hard for him and he visits her? That's it??? There should be more there...

I agree she did rush the end and left a lot off vital information about Christian and Tasha. Whether Christian was upset with Rose for turning in Tasha, even though she was guilty, love is blind. Or how the murder was actually committed or when she knew for sure Rose and Dimitri had been seeing each other.

Or even the break up between Adrian was rushed.

Or what about Dimirti's family. Do they even know he's no longer a strigoi and with Rose.

Honestly, if she cut back on all the description of what people were wearing to the cornoration, maybe she could've answered some of these questions.

I think you're right also about who could be in the spinoff. However, jumping two or three years later in BL, per other comments, would mean a lot of explanation of what happened in between those years, which I believe is vital, because Jill's life is in danger now. I think BL will be another 6 book series that spans over the time she is in school and ending with falling in love. That leaves open Adrian to come back after book 2 or 3 when she is older and he is hopefully wiser.

However, I think Abe is going to be involved in helping Jill and hence why Sydney is in the book and he may use Adrian too. But who knows. We'll have to wait until the book is released.

SecretMagic wrote:

L.Dragomir wrote:

Usually murder mysteries go though the how but Richelle didn't and I doubt we'll ever get the full details. How exactly did Tasha get her had on that stake ? (probably stolen)

omg, I was just thinking the same thing earlier today. Everything else made sense except that part.

I don't think it's that big of a mystery. Rose obviously left it in her room cause she didn't really need it with her doing desk work and all. Tasha was jealous and wanted Rose out of the picture. Plus didn't the janitor say he saw that Moroi (Tasha's "guard") in Rose's building. He probably snuck into her room and stole the stake. That's my best guess.

Wilda85 wrote:

SecretMagic wrote:

L.Dragomir wrote:

Usually murder mysteries go though the how but Richelle didn't and I doubt we'll ever get the full details. How exactly did Tasha get her had on that stake ? (probably stolen)

omg, I was just thinking the same thing earlier today. Everything else made sense except that part.

I don't think it's that big of a mystery. Rose obviously left it in her room cause she didn't really need it with her doing desk work and all. Tasha was jealous and wanted Rose out of the picture. Plus didn't the janitor say he saw that Moroi (Tasha's "guard") in Rose's building. He probably snuck into her room and stole the stake. That's my best guess.

Agreed. lol Rose had been spending a lot of time outside her room filing for Hans and then the labor in the courtyard near the statues. Also, nobody was really watching Rose at the time so if anyone saw someone coming out her room (friend or not), they probably wouldn't have thought much of it. Also, Tasha or someone had to have snuck in sometime before Rose was in there with Adrian the night Tatiana was murdered. I doubt Rose would have noticed her stake missing because she had no need for it at the time.

I didn't think Rose's break up with Adrian was rushed at all. Actually, I thought it was dragged out more than necessary (or maybe that was just me being impatient for Rose and Dimitri to officially be together forever lol). It was painful to read because he just wouldn't let it go. I think Rose came out of the relationship more mature than him. I get that he's hurt, but he just doesn't see that they never worked well together in the first place.

I do think RM could have explored Christian's emotions more after Tasha's imprisonment. Like people have said, she basically raised him. He probably felt more than just "a hard time". He probably felt betrayed and angry. Or something. lol

dimkaluv wrote:

I didn't think Rose's break up with Adrian was rushed at all. Actually, I thought it was dragged out more than necessary (or maybe that was just me being impatient for Rose and Dimitri to officially be together forever lol). It was painful to read because he just wouldn't let it go. I think Rose came out of the relationship more mature than him. I get that he's hurt, but he just doesn't see that they never worked well together in the first place.

I do think RM could have explored Christian's emotions more after Tasha's imprisonment. Like people have said, she basically raised him. He probably felt more than just "a hard time". He probably felt betrayed and angry. Or something. lol

I agree about the break up! I was like "JUST get ON with IT!!!" lol...

Has anyone seen what was said about bloodlines in EW??? They confirmed Sydney and Jill and said the male lead would be a "love interest from VA"...

StephieBee wrote:

Has anyone seen what was said about bloodlines in EW??? They confirmed Sydney and Jill and said the male lead would be a "love interest from VA"...

Yeah, I've posted the article in the spin-off thread. But I'll post it again in here.



I guess the love interest from VA may be Adrian. It's not really a surprise though. If it's Adrian, who's love interest do you think he'll be in Bloodlines? Jill's or Sydney's? Probably Jill's. lol Sydney has her Alchemist dude who's already in love with her.

Is there anyone else it could be? What other love interests are there from VA that aren't taken. Eddie wasn't really a love interest. Mason's dead. Maybe the cave dude, Joshua? lol That would be entertaining.

Arghh... full of spoilers... I've downloaded it, but I've got no time to read it... I guess I'll steal now 10 mins to read chapter two....

"love interest from VA" - says Adrian to me.

Compared to every other storyline in VA Tasha's is probably the weakest. Her turning out to be the murderer didn't have quite a build up. There was one subtle hint other than her obviously being againt Tatiana's policies.

I don't blame Rose for being with Dimitri before telling Adrian. They were in pretty close quarters and are meant to be together.

I was hoping to learn more about Rose's parents - maybe there will be a short story like there was for Lissa's parents.

I want to know more about Eddie, Mia and Ambrose. Hopefully they'll all make appearance is Bloodlines.

I thought RM would mention the voting outcome ie the numbers Lissa got and the others.

dimkaluv wrote:

StephieBee wrote:

Has anyone seen what was said about bloodlines in EW??? They confirmed Sydney and Jill and said the male lead would be a "love interest from VA"...

Yeah, I've posted the article in the spin-off thread. But I'll post it again in here.



I guess the love interest from VA may be Adrian. It's not really a surprise though. If it's Adrian, who's love interest do you think he'll be in Bloodlines? Jill's or Sydney's? Probably Jill's. lol Sydney has her Alchemist dude who's already in love with her.

Is there anyone else it could be? What other love interests are there from VA that aren't taken. Eddie wasn't really a love interest. Mason's dead. Maybe the cave dude, Joshua? lol That would be entertaining.

Oh, I was also going to say that the love interest from VA that's going to be in Bloodlines might not necessarily be one of Rose's love interests. Though in all likelihood it is Adrian.

They couldn't even get the cover right : blond Rose.

There's Josh and that guy in #1 whose name I can't remember.
Lissa didn't have anyone else really besides Christian.
Possibly Mikael.

I want Adrian - his story isn't finished.

Maybe it's Christian??? Then we could get some answers about all that stuff. And he was friends with Jill...

I'd like it to be Adrian so we could get some closure there...

Hmmmm... It's gonna be a looooooong wait...

I can't really see it being Adrian. While I'd love to find out how he's holding out, RM keeps saying the story is going to be about fringe characters, people we don't really know much about. Adrian sort of screams "known character". He was a main ever since frostbite, where as people like Jill and Sydney sort of only popped in occasionally. I know they both had pretty important roles in LS, but we still don't know much about the Alchemists and we don't know how Jill will go now her life is turned upside-down

SecretMagic wrote:

I can't really see it being Adrian. While I'd love to find out how he's holding out, RM keeps saying the story is going to be about fringe characters, people we don't really know much about. Adrian sort of screams "known character". He was a main ever since frostbite, where as people like Jill and Sydney sort of only popped in occasionally. I know they both had pretty important roles in LS, but we still don't know much about the Alchemists and we don't know how Jill will go now her life is turned upside-down

I WOULD LOVE IF EDDIE CAME BACK!!!

I'm seriously gonna miss that dude.

dimkaluv wrote:

SecretMagic wrote:

I can't really see it being Adrian. While I'd love to find out how he's holding out, RM keeps saying the story is going to be about fringe characters, people we don't really know much about. Adrian sort of screams "known character". He was a main ever since frostbite, where as people like Jill and Sydney sort of only popped in occasionally. I know they both had pretty important roles in LS, but we still don't know much about the Alchemists and we don't know how Jill will go now her life is turned upside-down

I WOULD LOVE IF EDDIE CAME BACK!!!

I'm seriously gonna miss that dude.

I sort of feel like he'll be one of Jill's guardians. Lissa trusts him, so who better to look after her little sister?

SecretMagic wrote:

dimkaluv wrote:

SecretMagic wrote:

I can't really see it being Adrian. While I'd love to find out how he's holding out, RM keeps saying the story is going to be about fringe characters, people we don't really know much about. Adrian sort of screams "known character". He was a main ever since frostbite, where as people like Jill and Sydney sort of only popped in occasionally. I know they both had pretty important roles in LS, but we still don't know much about the Alchemists and we don't know how Jill will go now her life is turned upside-down

I WOULD LOVE IF EDDIE CAME BACK!!!

I'm seriously gonna miss that dude.

I sort of feel like he'll be one of Jill's guardians. Lissa trusts him, so who better to look after her little sister?

I'll be holding onto that hope. *crosses fingers*

SecretMagic wrote:

dimkaluv wrote:

SecretMagic wrote:

I can't really see it being Adrian. While I'd love to find out how he's holding out, RM keeps saying the story is going to be about fringe characters, people we don't really know much about. Adrian sort of screams "known character". He was a main ever since frostbite, where as people like Jill and Sydney sort of only popped in occasionally. I know they both had pretty important roles in LS, but we still don't know much about the Alchemists and we don't know how Jill will go now her life is turned upside-down

I WOULD LOVE IF EDDIE CAME BACK!!!

I'm seriously gonna miss that dude.

I sort of feel like he'll be one of Jill's guardians. Lissa trusts him, so who better to look after her little sister?

Eddie guarding Jill - perfect combo.

Ahh... I'm reading now... what are christian and lissa up to???? I can't wai, and I have to go to sleep....

So I finished the day it came out. I just haven't been on here. One thing I have to say I really liked was getting to know Dimitri more. Seeing him really as more of a person than Rose's love or Rose's mentor. His personality really shone though more than the previous books.

SecretMagic wrote:

I can't really see it being Adrian. While I'd love to find out how he's holding out, RM keeps saying the story is going to be about fringe characters, people we don't really know much about. Adrian sort of screams "known character". He was a main ever since frostbite, where as people like Jill and Sydney sort of only popped in occasionally. I know they both had pretty important roles in LS, but we still don't know much about the Alchemists and we don't know how Jill will go now her life is turned upside-down

I agree that Adrian doesn't qualify as a fringe character but I can't really think of anyone else it could be. Lissa's ex Aaron from the first book? He was in a tug-of-war between Lissa and Mia but Lissa wasn't really into Aaron in the first place so does that really qualify as a love triangle?

I really hope it's Adrian because after everything Rose put him through he really does deserve his own happy ending. Him and "Jailbait" Jill should hook up. She would probably make a better girlfriend than Rose ever was to him.

Ah I just thought?! THE LOVE INTEREST FROM ST. VLADIMIRS COULD BE JESSE?! was that his name, i think so The Moroi that Rose made out with on the couch?
I doubt it would be a teacher at the school
Or it could be Aaron? But I'd actually kill myself if it was becos i just dont like him

I loved LS! I still haven't made up my mind whether it ended they way I wanted? I think thats just becos I want Rose's story to continue I guess. But although I love her and Dimitri together, I have a deep spot in my heart for Adrian and really hoped that Rose would love him. Thats the only problem when there's more than one "Team" as we call them or 'Ships' You always feel pity for the one that is alone AH!

I read it at 4shared.com for free. I gotta tell you I was disappointed. It was like she just hurried through it trying to finish it. How could she leave it with Adrian pissed off? It's like she didn't care about the character at all.

I just think she could have spun things a little differently. I mean how can she just end the series without addressing the strigoi really at all except in reference to Demetri and Sonya. Where's the big battle? We want to know what's going to happen not just leave it to our imaginations.