Twilight doesnt deserve to have so much attention...*sigh*...

yep so did you have a good thanksgiving Cross?

My Thanksgiving just started!

hehe cool idk what time zone you live in!
but Happy Stuff Your Face Day!

Tonystark616 wrote:

At least Vampire Academy wasn't built out of Anita Blake leftovers[although i plan to read the series one day!] that's something they have over twilight.Another thing, is that Vampire Academy is less whitewashed than twilight is, to a meaningful extent.

I've read about the first four or five. They're really good, actually. I've read that as you progress in the series, things start getting a little hot and heavy, which kind of scares me. But, the series is actually for adults... so I wouldn't be too surprised if stuff like that DID happen. So, if you like erotic vampire novels, they;re definitely your thing.

Magic Hour wrote:

Tonystark616 wrote:

At least Vampire Academy wasn't built out of Anita Blake leftovers[although i plan to read the series one day!] that's something they have over twilight.Another thing, is that Vampire Academy is less whitewashed than twilight is, to a meaningful extent.

I've read about the first four or five. They're really good, actually. I've read that as you progress in the series, things start getting a little hot and heavy, which kind of scares me. But, the series is actually for adults... so I wouldn't be too surprised if stuff like that DID happen. So, if you like erotic vampire novels, they're definitely your thing.

At least Rose Hathaway might be less of a Hypocrite than Anita Blake might be, unless Hamilton would admit that Blake is Part-Vampire, too, but it has to be done right, or that will not make sense!

Then again, just as i feel that Vampire Academy is somewhat Better than twilight, but barely has more good for it than House Of Night, Rose being less Hypocritical than Blake could be..isn't worth saying much, is it?

Tonystark616 wrote:

Magic Hour wrote:

Tonystark616 wrote:

At least Vampire Academy wasn't built out of Anita Blake leftovers[although i plan to read the series one day!] that's something they have over twilight.Another thing, is that Vampire Academy is less whitewashed than twilight is, to a meaningful extent.

I've read about the first four or five. They're really good, actually. I've read that as you progress in the series, things start getting a little hot and heavy, which kind of scares me. But, the series is actually for adults... so I wouldn't be too surprised if stuff like that DID happen. So, if you like erotic vampire novels, they're definitely your thing.

At least Rose Hathaway might be less of a Hypocrite than Anita Blake might be, unless Hamilton would admit that Blake is Part-Vampire, too, but it has to be done right, or that will not make sense!

Then again, just as i feel that Vampire Academy is somewhat Better than twilight, but barely has more good for it than House Of Night, Rose being less Hypocritical than Blake could be..isn't worth saying much, is it?

Hypocritical? Not sure I get you on that one...
But I don't think HoN is even worth mentioning. Bth VA and Twilight (as much as I've come to regret reading it) are far better in terms of maturity and overall writing style/ content.

Magic Hour wrote:

Tonystark616 wrote:

Magic Hour wrote:

Tonystark616 wrote:

At least Vampire Academy wasn't built out of Anita Blake leftovers[although i plan to read the series one day!] that's something they have over twilight.Another thing, is that Vampire Academy is less whitewashed than twilight is, to a meaningful extent.

I've read about the first four or five. They're really good, actually. I've read that as you progress in the series, things start getting a little hot and heavy, which kind of scares me. But, the series is actually for adults... so I wouldn't be too surprised if stuff like that DID happen. So, if you like erotic vampire novels, they're definitely your thing.

At least Rose Hathaway might be less of a Hypocrite than Anita Blake might be, unless Hamilton would admit that Blake is Part-Vampire, too, but it has to be done right, or that will not make sense!

Then again, just as i feel that Vampire Academy is somewhat Better than twilight, but barely has more good for it than House Of Night, Rose being less Hypocritical than Blake could be..isn't worth saying much, is it?

Hypocritical? Not sure I get you on that one...
But I don't think HoN is even worth mentioning. Bth VA and Twilight (as much as I've come to regret reading it) are far better in terms of maturity and overall writing style/ content.

Vampire Academy and Cirque Du Freak, yes, Magic, twilight on the other hand, no, of course not[especially after the 1st novel, which was the only one with any maturity whatsoever!]

Cirque du Freak, really? I tried to read that series once. I never really got the impression it was mature, either.

Magic Hour wrote:

Cirque du Freak, really? I tried to read that series once. I never really got the impression it was mature, either.

The first 3 novels, you might be right, but the later 9 novels, however, well....you underestimated Cirque Du Freak, really.It even has more maturity in its antics than Vampire Academy[i'm still somewhat fond of Vampire Academy's cast, but even i know that Vampire Academy needs Spine+, in its sequels!]If it comes to a life or death situation, you need a very strong will to even hope to get the better of your otherwise more experienced foe, in real life, anyway.

Tonystark616 wrote:

Magic Hour wrote:

Cirque du Freak, really? I tried to read that series once. I never really got the impression it was mature, either.

The first 3 novels, you might be right, but the later 9 novels, however, well....you underestimated Cirque Du Freak, really.It even has more maturity in its antics than Vampire Academy[i'm still somewhat fond of Vampire Academy's cast, but even i know that Vampire Academy needs Spine+, in its sequels!]If it comes to a life or death situation, you need a very strong will to even hope to get the better of your otherwise more experienced foe, in real life, anyway.

Hmm, I guess. I'm just not really fond of Shan's writing style. Really, I think I've read better books.
Spine? Va has plenty of spine.

IcyPinkAngel wrote:

Last but not least, I love Robert Pattinson too. Yes he's freaking hot. All girls, including me, went gaga over him. But i cnt accept the fact that just cos he's hot, the twilight series should follow that too. I'm not anti-him(Robert)(and never will be). i'm just anti-twilight the book. It doesnt meet my high expectation of a popular vampire books. hope i dun lose you.

I actually love Robert Pattinson because of Harry Potter. I was gaga over him in fifth grade, when Harry Potter 4 was showing. Now I feel so sad for him because of the attention and pressure he's under in.

EDIT: Actually, he's loved and hated because he's Edward Cullen. Now that's so sad...

And even more EDIT:

Quote :

"...when I read [Twilight], it seemed like I was convinced [author] Stephenie [Meyers] was convinced she was [the book's lead character] Bella and it was like it was a book that wasn't supposed to be published. It was like reading her sexual fantasy, especially when she said it was based on a dream and it was like, 'Oh I've had this dream about this really sexy guy,' and she just writes this book about it. Some things about [Pattinson's character] Edward are so specific, I was just convinced - I was like, 'This woman is mad. She's completely mad and she's in love with her own fictional creation.'"

Source

I love Rob now. A LOT.

Magic Hour wrote:

Tonystark616 wrote:

Magic Hour wrote:

Cirque du Freak, really? I tried to read that series once. I never really got the impression it was mature, either.

The first 3 novels, you might be right, but the later 9 novels, however, well....you underestimated Cirque Du Freak, really.It even has more maturity in its antics than Vampire Academy[i'm still somewhat fond of Vampire Academy's cast, but even i know that Vampire Academy needs Spine+, in its sequels!]If it comes to a life or death situation, you need a very strong will to even hope to get the better of your otherwise more experienced foe, in real life, anyway.

Hmm, I guess. I'm just not really fond of Shan's writing style. Really, I think I've read better books.
Spine? V.A has plenty of spine.

I said Spine+, not just mere Spine.Spine+'s are better than mere Spines.

I recalled from experience that having mere spines installed will only get you so far, especially if they get more brittle from the heat of kombat, but if you have Spine+, you can take on massively impossible odds, and not only would you come up on top, in the end, but you'd have the time of your life, doing it, even if you don't like killing, for that matter!

That said, i'm still forever grateful neither Rose or Lissa are self-inserts of Mead, really, as Mead wouldn't have enough of the Ethnicity to be self-inserting herself.

I best bring out that poll of Darren Shan V.S Christian Ozera, since for all my common sense would permit, the only Teenage Vampire Prince who could take on Darren and have even so much as a fragile hope of success would be Christian Ozera, and that's if he can keep his distance long enough to fight Darren, especially when in the later novels, Darren Wields Swords!

That said, lets just get back to the topic at hand, since i agree that the twilight sequels test my patience without doing enough to reward it, reasonably!

I only read about five pages in this thread (saving my eyes the strain - and not that much time in my day), so excuse me if I repeat someone else.

This thread pretty much sums up why I don't think novels should be made into movies or tv series. It creates this twisted-mass-unatural-hysterical-obsession in young people and in the end = hate.

Does Twilight deserve fame? What does? It's human nature to copy each other, everyone has to have what everyone else has. What's hip, what's hot, etc. How many people here have jeans? Cell phone? Ipod? Computer for that matter? If something is 'cool' it often becomes necessary, no? Or else you are un-cool or left in the dust. <--- next year or two from now everyone will have those digital books. *gag* I couldn't be without the feel of a real book in my hands, turning pages and all that.

My opinion on the twilight/Rob obsession... Hardly anybody knew or acknowledged who Robert Pattinson was in Harry Potter (though I notice a lot of people 'claim' that now) Cedric and McGonagall are my fav characters in that book series, I have a substantial Cedric movie collection as when I first heard the news RP was cast as Cedric I thought he was an interesting unknown. I like collecting things that few others do. At the time there were NO RP fansites anywhere, for years! And hardly any Cedric merchandise. Only hufflefuff sites (not directed at Cedric) and a few Cedric fans on myspace. Then Twilight is decided to be made into a movie the books fans were horrified that RP was going to be their Edward, hundreds of thousands signed a petition against him, then that mass-teen-opinion switched like night and day when the movie release approached. Still stumps me. Now he has countless fansites... *rolls eyes* I just want to scream the poor man is NOT Edward!!! Really made me re-think my cedric collection too... *grin*

I'm not going to diss Twilight (books or movies) it's not my baby. I can however as a general book lover appreciate the novels as what they are. I think they are good in their own right and try not to compare them. I'm not going to diss the movies either, as in true Hollywood greedy tradition what happened with the hype was to be expected. All that aside I think the movies are really good for what they are considering. Better than what happened to Anne Rices 'Queen of the damned' when made into a movie.. Interview with a vampire was awesome both book and well-made movie... but they slaughtered Queen of the damned because they didn't pay attention, they didn't care about details, changed literally everything to suit their own whim. Clear cut greed there, wanting to make money off fans who liked the first flic. Nobody's making me (or anyone) watch it though, my dislike leads me to never watch it again rather then spread too much hate (only when trying to make a point)

Vampire Diaries is going the same route same with True Blood (most of you are far to young to watch that just yet) but neither of these follow their novel series. Why bother? Why not just make up something new? Touching story line here and there is insulting to me.

As for Vampire Academy, I honestly think it would make for far more fascinating 'viewing' than some of it's counterparts, but... is it worth the risk? Interview with a vampire was a diamond in the ruff is seems. When comparing the books to the Twilight series... eh, it's all opinion and mood. To me they are two seperate stories each good in their own right. Which I like better... it's like apples and oranges. What do you fancy at the moment? I certainly wouldn't throw away perfectly good food.

I'm a lover of small rectangular objects called, books. A sometimes essential escape from reality, always kept handy for rainy days. Always there when you need them. I cherish each one, even those I might only ever read just once.

Moves/Movies /////// Books/Books (they should each stay away from each other IMO)

wahahaha I totally ranted. hehehe

von dimitri ur post was awesome lol i agree wit alot you say

one of my favorite quotes is "don't judge a book by its movie". I'm not a fan of comparing authors and their novels. If i like it, i like. It i dont, i don't. Books are written to a board demographic. But each each is its own entity. It's not fair to compare and contrast the two and it annoys me quite a bit when people do.

True Blood.. i'm a huge fan of the novel. I respected from the start the producers said the tv series is only loosely based on the series. The way i see it the book is one version and the show is another version. I love the two. I don't compare the two.

I love how you mentioned RP being in Harry Potter and being a fan of him them. I was the same way. I was a HUGE fan of Kristin from being in SPEAK. Loved the book and thought the movie was done OKAY.

I love books. And there is nothing like having a hard copy of a book. I only get ebooks when money is tight and i'm dying to read books. But then i always buy the actual books when i can. Nothing compares to reading while commuting or reading curled up in bed with hot coco.

Peace love n VA wrote:

von dimitri ur post was awesome lol i agree wit alot you say

one of my favorite quotes is "don't judge a book by its movie". I'm not a fan of comparing authors and their novels. If i like it, i like. It i dont, i don't. Books are written to a board demographic. But each each is its own entity. It's not fair to compare and contrast the two and it annoys me quite a bit when people do.

True Blood.. i'm a huge fan of the novel. I respected from the start the producers said the tv series is only loosely based on the series. The way i see it the book is one version and the show is another version. I love the two. I don't compare the two.

I love how you mentioned RP being in Harry Potter and being a fan of him them. I was the same way. I was a HUGE fan of Kristin from being in SPEAK. Loved the book and thought the movie was done OKAY.

I love books. And there is nothing like having a hard copy of a book. I only get ebooks when money is tight and i'm dying to read books. But then i always buy the actual books when i can. Nothing compares to reading while commuting or reading curled up in bed with hot coco.

Oh, so true. We recently discussed the Kindle in English, and I was not surprised to find that the majority of my class would rather read on an electronic device rather than an actual book. I get the whole money issue completely, but I would like to point out how much electronic 'books' make me sick.
In a world where half our lives are tied up in technology, why not leave something as simple and innocent as books alone? Why spend nearly $350 on a piece of equipment that is sure to discourage from reading rather than make it easier? What I mean is, the Kindle can supposedly do many other things that are likely to distract the owner from actually reading the book, so it's more like a small laptop than anything else. i.e NOT A BOOK.
Alright, enough of that. I'm getting a tiny bit off topic.
Oh, but I *did* enjoy reading your post, von Dimitri. Well done(:

I can agree with all that, Von Dimitri, and add further, that the only way i can see either House Of Night or Vampire Academy being taken on in movies or T.V Series, is that 'The Lightning Thief' movie turns out to be enough of a massive hit and a good-enough movie to help save the Fantasy Genre, that in order to get the time needed to get the rest of the Horror Genre against the Fantasy Genre, the Vampire Sub-Genre's conspirators would have to unleash a bold defense, by getting the rights to House Of Night or Vampire Academy ready, so the movies can get started.

In fact, House Of Night already has production rights sold to Producers already.[As if they realized that the Fantasy Genre was already moving against them, with the Hobbit and The Lightning Thief movies on the same year!]

I love to read I have been reading full on novel's since i was five (Dragon Lance Series) Anyone who has known me my whole life knows me to always be wrapped up in a book. I belong to so many book clubs it's not even funny. I'm often reading 2-3 diff. books at a time. I appreciate the literature in any shape or form. weather it's on paper on audio on my comp. or my kindle. Yes i just got one nine months ago as a gift. I must say I do love the convenience of it. I can not dis the kindle or it's creators. When Blood Promise came out I didn't have to rush to the stores to place one on hold or pre order. At midnight when it came out which was four hours earlier for me so I got mine at 9pm the night before. My kindle automatically downloaded it for me. If I had to go to the store and buy it I would have had to wait until the next day when the stores opened, or until i got out of work. I like always being guaranteed that amazon has what ever book i want. Plus on the kindle my book was $7.00 less than the hard copy. ( I't doesn't matter because I bought the hard copy as well for my collection. I'm still waiting for the audio to add to that collection as well.) Since I got my kindle less than a year ago, I have purchased 89 books. And downloaded another 22 for free. So far I've loved all the books I've read. The free ones are a great marketing technique for authors to get fans. I have read four new authors that I never normally would have and gone on to buy their other novels. Maybe the kindle is not for everyone, but honestly it is very practical for my life style. I have a massive library/ office and I have no where to put so many books. All my shelves look like a mini library and a lot are in boxes because I have no where. I had to donate two full boxes of books last year because I had no room for them. It's hard parting with things like that for me. I like the thought of being able to carry 2500 books in the side pocket of my purse. It's a condensed library for me. It's funny because my family and friends hardly ever have to buy any books they always come over to my house and I have a check out system for them. I am just weary of my autographed copies. 1/2 of my collections have been autographed. It's my life's ambition to have every single one autographed well those who's authors are still around of course.

I guess what I'm saying is don't judge a book by it's covering, Great books can be enjoyed in all forms. For some digital books may be a fad but for a true reader and a person who appreciates literature they are a godsend. Well maybe that's over stating it but you get what I mean. Don't get me wrong there are times I want that feeling of holding an actual book and I do go to my office and and enjoy the simple things. I just like having the options.

You do realize i enjoyed the P.J.A.T.O novels, despite that i feel that their covers only got up-to-par after the 2nd novel, The Sea Of Monsters, somehow.[I have to give it to the original art designers for the covers of the twilight novels...they're very well-done, even though we can't say the same for the series as a whole, itself, can we?]

That said, T.B.O.T.L and The Last Olympian Are the $hit!

At least Rose isn't made from any possible leftovers from the Anita Blake series, even though i don't think i have anything personal against Anita, herself, or her world, yet, nor would the rest of Vampire Academy, for that matter.Yet why do i feel that House Of Night and twilight are made from Anita Blake leftovers, Jill?

Jill, ur post made me drool. Lol. I hope one day to have as many books as you do!

its funny because it's the only presents i ever get. Also I usually say about 80 percent of the time give books as gifts too. Have you read the succubus series yet? If so I laughed when seths nieces says he always gives them books. Thats what my family always does to me. Often times I'll hide money somewhere inside the book. I iron a twenty and wedge it in the spine so they have to read the book to find not just flip it over.

Then i am proud to have set up a Chit Chat Section in Interstellar Wars, in that case, Jill. ^_^

ha yeah me and my hubby keep talking about adding on to expand my library into a master suite and make it a library/ office for the two of us. I've been browsing ideas of how to lay it out when I came across this the other day. These two people in Spokane Washington none the less had so many books they bout an old library and turned into their house. That is freaking awesome! Here's a link.
http://www.hgtv.com/home-improvement/living-at-the-library/index.html

We can always discuss fears of if either the P.J.O FanBase or the Vampire Academy fanbase ends up as bad as, if not worse than, the Now-Net Troll-infested Twilight series fanbase, as seeing as how we went from Marvel Movie-Verse Net Trolls, to Twi-Trolls, and how the only true twilighters and Antis i can stand, are on my friends list on Gaia Online?

JILL-JILLIAN-JUST JILL wrote:

ha yeah me and my hubby keep talking about adding on to expand my library into a master suite and make it a library/ office for the two of us. I've been browsing ideas of how to lay it out when I came across this the other day. These two people in Spokane Washington none the less had so many books they bout an old library and turned into their house. That is freaking awesome! Here's a link.
http://www.hgtv.com/home-improvement/living-at-the-library/index.html

thats awesome !

I'd be lying, if i said Rose Hathaway didn't have Plot-Armor, so if you wonder what that is, click on the link, please?

It would make a lot more sense, if you do, since at least you'd understand what i meant when i said Rose's Plot-Armor is better justified than Bella Swan's Plot Armor is.