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PostSubject: Not another House of Night (or Twilight)   Not another House of Night (or Twilight) Icon_minitimeWed Dec 31, 2008 1:52 pm

I reluctantly picked this series up. I really liked House of Night and thought: "What could this series offer that the Casts did not?" I was mistaken. The similarities end at vampires w/ magical abilities and a school housing them. Having read HoN, I guessed that Karp and Lissa had a spirit affinity even though spirit was never mentioned as an element in the series up until that point.

But the story is richer, the characters more complex, and the themes/stories more mature (and I don't mean sexually since Zoey Redbird gets in a lot of raunch now and then). Rosemarie Hathaway probably comes closest to embodying Buffy and Faith combined. She's attractive, popular, strong, yet socially more likely to punch you than pat you on the back. I like her despite some of her boneheaded decisions. Despite it all, she's more mature than Zoey and likely b/c she, as a dhampir w/ lives of Moroi in her hands, has to be that way.

As for the society, I see the Moroi as the regular vampyres, the Strigoi as the Reds, and the dhampirs are more like Renesmee from Twilight than anything. So that's my comparison piece.
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PostSubject: Re: Not another House of Night (or Twilight)   Not another House of Night (or Twilight) Icon_minitimeThu Jan 01, 2009 12:36 pm

You've got a point, but I like this series much, much better than Twilight and HoN combined. xD;
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Vampire Academy blows both the Twilight and the House of Night series out of the water when it comes to writing style, plot development and character believeability.

I read Twilight before it became so popular and it was one of my favorite books at the time. The narriator had a strong voice and the plot was intriguing. New Moon...well, as much as I like sequals...the books wasn't very good in my opinion...there was too much moping going on. Eclipe redeemed the series for me...finally there was some action. Breaking Dawn threw a huge shadow on the series for me. It made me not like it as much. It wasn't really realistic and evrything just seemed to work out.

I read the first two books of the House of Night series and couldn't read anymore. The plot and characters seemed underdeveloped. Everything worked out for them. It was thrown into their laps already wraped...no struggle at all. I don't know...seemed too far fetched to me. It wasn't written well either.

Vampire academy contained all of the elements that the previous two series lacked. The characters were strong, the plot well thought out, and the writing style very polished. I am so glad someone was able to do a vampire book justice.

The only series that come close to Vampire Academy is the Den of Shadow's series by Amelia Atwater-Rhodes. Midnight Preditor is the best of them.

Alight now I will get off my soap box. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Not another House of Night (or Twilight)   Not another House of Night (or Twilight) Icon_minitimeThu Jan 22, 2009 5:37 pm

I think with the Twilight series, everyone has their favorites. Midnight Sun (what there is of it) is tops for me with Breaking Dawn, New Moon, Twilight and Eclipse in that order. Eclipse was such a filler book...a bridge between the heart (New Moon) and soul (Breaking Dawn) of the series. But she is not Hemingway. You could make a drinking game out of the word "murmur". But she writes addictive longing like no other.

HoN is so fluff. I think Kristin writes it and not P.C. There is no continuity of character or plot at times and Zoey is a heroine you want to toss out a window.

But like I've said before, for me Rosemarie Hathaway is a cross between Buffy and Faith. The series is mature even if YA.
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PostSubject: Re: Not another House of Night (or Twilight)   Not another House of Night (or Twilight) Icon_minitimeFri Jan 30, 2009 3:33 am

I loved reading these books. I thought they were so good. And I just recently finished the frist 4 HoN books and thought those were good too. Twlight, VA and HoN all have things in common with each other. But I still love each one the same.
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I really enjoyed all the Twilight books. New Moon was my least favourite - at times I wanted to throw the book against a wall! I was p-o'ed that Edward was taken away from 'me' (living vicariously through Bella). I suppose I'm a bit of a wuss...I wanted everything to work out for the Cullens in the end of the series.

I agree that VA is written really well. I like the maturity (even for a YA book). I compare it to Vampire Diaries...now the stories were OK but in Vamp Diaries, it wasn't that mature. It was REALLY YA if you know what I mean. And I couldn't get as in touch with those characters as I could with VA and Twilight. I just love Rose. She's fantastic. And Dimitri? Well! What girl wouldn't get a crush on him?

Has anyone else here read Vampire diaries? Just curious.

I haven't read HoN, but having seen what others here have said, I likely won't. 3 series is more than enough to keep up with. Oh yes, I have every faith that Stephenie Meyers WILL finish Midnight Sun! She'd be crazy not to! And yeah, I don't really like leaving series unfinished, so I will be going to my local bookstore and getting the latest installment of Vampire Diaries. I have to see if LJSmith can redeem herself after a weird-o ending to Dark Reunion.
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PostSubject: Re: Not another House of Night (or Twilight)   Not another House of Night (or Twilight) Icon_minitimeThu Feb 26, 2009 3:13 pm

I also love Twilight, VA and HoN.
Yes Twilight to me will always be my favorate, maybe because it was the series that introduced me to this genre of books. Then HoN was the next series i read after Twilight. I do think that HoN if more YA than both the other ones, but i am still looking forward to the next book that is coming out soon!!!
In the beginning of VA i did think it was going to be another HoN, but after finishing the first book and maybe more in the second i found the major differences. It is so much more in depth with the characters and thier stories.
I have read the Vampire Diaries series. I just finished the new one (Nightfall) right before i started on the VA books. It still has a wierdo ending but at least it leaves you with a cliffhanger at the end. I cannot wait for the next one of those to come out.
Overall I have to rate these books as:
1. Twilight
2. VA
3. Vampire Dairies
4. HoN
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Don't spoil! Don't spoil!!! I am only about 150 pages into Nightfall. I went to LJ Smith's website and there's like another 2 or 3 books on the horizon. I can't recall WHEN they're due out. I did realize this morning before going to bed (I am on nightshift right now - a bit vampiric, eh?), that Vampire Diaries sorta reminds me of Nancy Drew. At least in the style of the writing and the "all American" kids, well not Stefan and Damon, obviously...and the small town they live in. Matt is a bit like Ned, Bonnie would be Bess and Meredith would be George. LOL!
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Ballroomdancer13 wrote:
I haven't read HoN, but having seen what others here have said, I likely won't.
Why not? I'm asking cause -- after hearing so much about it -- I actually wanted to pick it up and see what it's about.
I also wanna read the Sookie Stackhouse books, especially since I've started watching True Blood. The series is typical HBO but I'm curious what the books are like. And Bill is HOT. Kinda cheesy at times but nevertheless HOT!
And I definitely know what you mean about New Moon. After Edward left I was even more of a vegetable than Bella. I couldn't focus on reading, I just kept scanning the pages, searching for the moment when he returns. Laughing
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Why not? I'm asking cause -- after hearing so much about it -- I actually wanted to pick it up and see what it's about.

A lot of people here rated it their least favourite. That and, like I said, I have 3 series to keep track of. I don't know that I want to add a fourth. I might add it IF it's finished. Can anyone here tell me if HoN is complete, or are there more books coming out? Plus, I've also still got a whack of Harlequins that I ordered and received and I want to read those, too. LOL! I can't read ONLY vampires. It's like having too much candy. I need a little variety. Oh, yes, I also bought "The Host" by SM. I was told to give it a try and that it's not as 'sci-fi-ey" as it seems.

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I also wanna read the Sookie Stackhouse books, especially since I've started watching True Blood. The series is typical HBO but I'm curious what the books are like.

I am also curious about those books. I haven't seen the show. I don't get HBO (I don't pay for it). I did see the book in the shop, and all I know is that it's kinda risqué (which I've got no problems with) and that it takes place in New Orleans.

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After Edward left I was even more of a vegetable than Bella. I couldn't focus on reading, I just kept scanning the pages, searching for the moment when he returns.

I found myself shouting, "Hurry up and have another hallucination!" I felt a weight lift when Alice returned. I heart Alice!!!! I knew then that Edward was not far behind!
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PostSubject: Re: Not another House of Night (or Twilight)   Not another House of Night (or Twilight) Icon_minitimeMon Mar 02, 2009 3:38 am

Oh, I've come across some really horrible reviews about the Host. It's suppose alternate scenes of extreme boredom with scenes that are ridiculously absurd. But if you do read it, tell us what you think of it.
I dunno what's become of me, I've just picked up Bram Stoker's Dracula and I'm looking to find some Anne Rice. Laughing Apparently I AM reading ONLY vampires.
About True Blood: I've read the first Sookie book and I liked the movie more (that's a first!). First impressions: although the storyline is entirely different than Twilight, it has a lot of these little details that scream Edward and Bella (and Jacob). I honestly believe that it was a major inspiration for Meyer's books. Meyer kind of softened the plot and made it teen-friendly. Now, why did I like the movie more? Even though it's typical HBO, which means that rivers of blood spill from even the tiniest of wounds and there's tons of sex, (definitely not young adult) it's a lot more bearable than the book (plus, it has a few extra characters that are just brilliant). The movie creates a "special moment" when it's Sookie's turn to get it on with her vampire chosen one. The book is too explicit. Now, I really don't mind it being risqué, which it really is, but there are certain moments when it kind of ruins all of the tension and romance.
Anyways, I have the first season in HDTV, on my computer. If you're interested we could figure out a way to send it to you.
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Hmm...I'll keep that in mind, thanks for the offer!

I will also let you guys know what I think of "The Host". I'm still reading Vampire Diaries: Nightfall. I'm about halfway, or a little over halfway through. I'm still wondering how this will work as a TV show. I mean, sure, OK, it's descriptive, I can form pictures. But I dunno...it has the potential to turn soap-opera-ish.

I have tried reading Anne Rice. I couldn't get through a book. I guess I preferred the movies. Do you know that she's writing like religious fiction now. Think of "Bible fanfic". I haven't picked up any of those...it's only what I've heard.
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Bible fanfic? Roflmao! That's gotta be entertaining. And it's one hell of a leap from vampires. There's just so much fuss about Anne Rice's vampires that I actually expected to be blown away. I'll still give it a try, at least I'll know I had the best intentions.
I'm halfway through "Dracula" and I must say I love it. It's a totally different story than these love & adventure books we're discussing here, but it manages to give me the creeps and that's pretty hard to do nowadays. Very Happy
I haven't read Vampire Diaries but I suppose you're forcing me to get a hold of it as well. Hell, what's one more series on top of all the others? Laughing
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Put that way, I suppose I have no excuse really but to pick up that House of Night thing. Maybe I'll get them from the Library.
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www.scribd.com may have them online for free.
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PostSubject: Re: Not another House of Night (or Twilight)   Not another House of Night (or Twilight) Icon_minitimeTue Mar 10, 2009 6:54 pm

For me, Twilight and Vampire Academy are my favorites.
I cant choose between the two!
Twilight- It is most definitely not the best written, but the story would have to be my favorite (excluding BD)
VA- Is written very well and the story is just as good, but different.

I really love books that are written to where i can connect w/ the characters and fall in love w/ them.
Which is why i love VA and Twilight so much.
Both of them have characters that i would want to have in my life...

HON is very immaturely written, even for me (16 years old)
i get sort of annoyed w/ 'I heart them' and 'I almost peed my pants!'
i read them because the story is interesting to me (even though its slow as hell) and i want to find out what happens, but they really arent all that great to me.

Blue Bloods is another series i enjoy..its not at good as VA, but its a lot better than HON in my opinion.
THere isnt as much romance as the others, but its a really great take on Vampires =]
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I started threads in the library for Blue Bloods and there's one for HoN too. Come on over....
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Vampire Academy...

it is way better than any other book including Twilight and House of Night.

I have just finished reading the House of NIght series and I read twilgiht ages ago but Vampire Academy is the best book I have ever read.

I have read the following vamp books
Twilight
-new moon
-eclipse
-breaking dawn
-partial draft of midnight sun
Vampire Academy
-frostbite
-shadow kiss
Dracula
Evernight
-stargazer
House of Night
-betrayed
-chosen
-untamed
-hunted

and as I said before VAMPIRE ACADEMY IS THE BEST!
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I was an insane twilight fan for a few months then I picked up The house of night in December. I picked up Vampire Academy a month ago and now like it just as much as House of Night... Though I may like the Academy books more now because they are more maturee like, for some reason House of Night makes me think of eiigth gradderss wich shouldnt be too young because I am a fresshmann : / bahh
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I never understood the big fuss over twilight but then again to me The Twilight series was never interesting...I enjoy the House of Night series and The Vampire academy series more.
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marya_badica wrote:
Vampire Academy...

it is way better than any other book including Twilight and House of Night.

I have just finished reading the House of NIght series and I read twilgiht ages ago but Vampire Academy is the best book I have ever read.

I have read the following vamp books
Twilight
-new moon
-eclipse
-breaking dawn
-partial draft of midnight sun
Vampire Academy
-frostbite
-shadow kiss
Dracula
Evernight
-stargazer
House of Night
-betrayed
-chosen
-untamed
-hunted

and as I said before VAMPIRE ACADEMY IS THE BEST!

HI5!!! Very Happy Very Happy
Even though i read twilight and halfway to the grave(paranormal romance) etc, Vampire Academy is still the best. I've been chasing after Blood promise for like..6 mths alr??? i'm so obsessed with it that i got into thousands of websites regarding Vampire Academy and also a Richelle's regular blog reader. honestly, i didn't get that obsession with any other books i read.
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Magdalene wrote:
Bible fanfic? Roflmao! That's gotta be entertaining. And it's one hell of a leap from vampires. There's just so much fuss about Anne Rice's vampires that I actually expected to be blown away. I'll still give it a try, at least I'll know I had the best intentions.
I'm halfway through "Dracula" and I must say I love it. It's a totally different story than these love & adventure books we're discussing here, but it manages to give me the creeps and that's pretty hard to do nowadays. Very Happy

That's because Dracula is the most obvious and well-known out of all the Vampire Patriarchs, Magdalene, so it's really no wonder how he could survive, if not thrive, from sunlight, no questions asked. Idea
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I agree with the other person.

I've read House of Night, Twilight, and Vampire Academy and the best, for me, is Vampire Academy. I'm about to read the Blue Blood Series. Has anyone read that? They say they're good but i don't know.
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I have not read HON, but I have read the first of the Morganville Vampire series. It's different from the likes of Twilight and VA and even Vampire Diaries, in that the Morganville series portrays vampires as villains. At least that was the case in the first book. I have the second book, but it's in line behind the Night World books by LJ Smith.

I've been hearing a lot about this Blue Bloods series. Without spoilers, can you tell us a bit about them?
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i've read all HoN that have been released so far.
as well with the twilight series,
vampire academy series,
vampire diaries series,
and evernight series.
i personally believe that the vampire academy series was the best.
it was definately more realistic.
e.g, shadow kiss. rose actually lost dimitri.
in most books the author would keep the male lead in the story - so everything was perfect.
and richelle mead has clearly shown that in real life, things dont turn out peachy every time.
the series was well written, and im looking forward to blood promise and meeting richelle at the VA tour afterparty.
i think all the vampire books i stated above are worth reading,
and i also believe the HoN series actually was good.
but vampire academy wins by alot.
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