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ElaBella
Posts : 2202 Join date : 2010-07-21 Age : 30 Location : Wherever the adventure is...
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:42 pm | |
| Good point. Um...I can't argue with that one lol. | |
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ktdraws
Posts : 17 Join date : 2010-05-03
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:55 pm | |
| Mmm we can't forget about Richard.... He has had a role in all the books so far we should expect him in this one... I think he probably will play a big role.
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ElaBella
Posts : 2202 Join date : 2010-07-21 Age : 30 Location : Wherever the adventure is...
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:57 pm | |
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Nightchild
Posts : 161 Join date : 2010-07-01 Age : 27 Location : Somewhere you'll never find!
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:36 pm | |
| Ain't he Victor's brother? Or am I wrong? | |
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ElaBella
Posts : 2202 Join date : 2010-07-21 Age : 30 Location : Wherever the adventure is...
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:23 pm | |
| Robert is the name of Victor's half-brother. | |
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Phoenix
Posts : 575 Join date : 2010-07-01 Age : 29 Location : Dimitri's bed
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:21 am | |
| Hmm.. I think I would go with Tasha. That would certainly be a surprise. Maybe Daniella, but I don't know.. I can't remember any other female character either, so... | |
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Daughterofnyxandkalona
Posts : 46 Join date : 2010-07-22 Age : 33 Location : Nonya
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:55 am | |
| Yeah it's definetely a cliffhanger but my theory is she killed herself. Seriously who else would kill her. I went through nearly everyone possible for killing the queen. No one adds up so she killed herself. It even sounded that way in the note. Rose, If you are reading this then something terrible has happened. You probably hate me, and I dont blame you. I can only ask trust that what I did with the age degree was better for your people than what others had planned. There are some moroi who want to force all dhampirs into service, wether they want it or not, by using compulsion. The age decree has slowed that faction down. However, I write to you with a secret you must put right, and it is a secret that you must share with as few as possible. Vasilissa needs her spot on the council, and it can be done. She is not the last Dragomir. Another lives, the illegitimate child of Eric Dragomir. I know nothing else, but if you can find this son or daughter, you will give Vasilissa the power she deserves. No matter your faults and dangerous temperament, you are the only one I feel can take on this task. Waste no time in fulfilling it. Tatian Ivashkov Doesn't it sound like she killed herself? | |
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ElaBella
Posts : 2202 Join date : 2010-07-21 Age : 30 Location : Wherever the adventure is...
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:57 am | |
| - Untamed998 wrote:
- Yeah it's definetely a cliffhanger but my theory is she killed herself. Seriously who else would kill her. I went through nearly everyone possible for killing the queen. No one adds up so she killed herself. It even sounded that way in the note.
Rose, If you are reading this then something terrible has happened. You probably hate me, and I dont blame you. I can only ask trust that what I did with the age degree was better for your people than what others had planned. There are some moroi who want to force all dhampirs into service, wether they want it or not, by using compulsion. The age decree has slowed that faction down. However, I write to you with a secret you must put right, and it is a secret that you must share with as few as possible. Vasilissa needs her spot on the council, and it can be done. She is not the last Dragomir. Another lives, the illegitimate child of Eric Dragomir. I know nothing else, but if you can find this son or daughter, you will give Vasilissa the power she deserves. No matter your faults and dangerous temperament, you are the only one I feel can take on this task. Waste no time in fulfilling it. Tatian Ivashkov Doesn't it sound like she killed herself? Not really. It sounds like she knew that someone was going to kill for a very good reason and she needed to make sure that someone knew the secret she'd been holding on to for who know how long. | |
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Daughterofnyxandkalona
Posts : 46 Join date : 2010-07-22 Age : 33 Location : Nonya
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:13 am | |
| Alright I was reading your theories. Mia has no way of knowing how to kill with a stake neither does Daniella. This definetely a mystery but it doesn't have to be a royal. Think about, how many guardians know how to get in? How many guardians know guardians that work there? It could've been a royals idea but a guardian had to carry it out. These are all great but we're most likely wrong. I do suspect Tasha cuz she wasn't in the last part of the book. I suspect suspect Tatiana cuz a lot of people commint sucide cuz of some secret. I suspect Daniella cuz she looked like she had alot of beef with queen. I can't suspect rose cuz I read the book and there's no way she did that. But if the janiter that said Adrien didn't enter at the time the queen was killed is a girl then I suspect her. See there's lots of great ideas but there're all the obvious.
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ElaBella
Posts : 2202 Join date : 2010-07-21 Age : 30 Location : Wherever the adventure is...
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:16 am | |
| Yes, but the most likely suspect is the one that is probably the mother of Lissa's half brother of sister, I think. | |
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Daughterofnyxandkalona
Posts : 46 Join date : 2010-07-22 Age : 33 Location : Nonya
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:22 am | |
| Well we don't know anything about Jane doe. All we know is she's the mom of Vasilissa's half brother or sister and her name. We don't know any problems she might have with the queen. | |
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Phoenix
Posts : 575 Join date : 2010-07-01 Age : 29 Location : Dimitri's bed
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:35 am | |
| - RubyGemJuly wrote:
- Not really. It sounds like she knew that someone was going to kill for a very good reason and she needed to make sure that someone knew the secret she'd been holding on to for who know how long.
I agree. And I don't think we can decide who wouldn't be able to kill her based on the fact whether or not the person knows how to use a stake - it's possible that a royal Moroi could get his guardian do it for them. | |
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ElaBella
Posts : 2202 Join date : 2010-07-21 Age : 30 Location : Wherever the adventure is...
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:37 am | |
| Yes. Compulsion could've been used. | |
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Nightchild
Posts : 161 Join date : 2010-07-01 Age : 27 Location : Somewhere you'll never find!
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:14 am | |
| Okay I really don't think Mia killed the queen but I just thought of a thing. She has made friends with some of the guardians on Court. She has trained with them and they have learned her all sort of tricks. Who says they haven't teached her how to use a stake?? And in Frostbite she used compulsion on a guardian, it wasn't very good but it worked. Thise was just a thought and I don't think Mia is the murderer but yeah...just a thought....
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Phoenix
Posts : 575 Join date : 2010-07-01 Age : 29 Location : Dimitri's bed
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:16 am | |
| - Nightchild wrote:
- Okay I really don't think Mia killed the queen but I just thought of a thing. She has made friends with some of the guardians on Court. She has trained with them and they have learned her all sort of tricks. Who says they haven't teached her how to use a stake?? And in Frostbite she used compulsion on a guardian, it wasn't very good but it worked.
Thise was just a thought and I don't think Mia is the murderer but yeah...just a thought....
True. Technically, she could have done it. I can't really find the motives for her to do it, but it could be something we don't know about, to make it a surprise. | |
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ElaBella
Posts : 2202 Join date : 2010-07-21 Age : 30 Location : Wherever the adventure is...
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:17 am | |
| Ye, but why frame Rose? She's a good friend 2 her now. | |
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Nightchild
Posts : 161 Join date : 2010-07-01 Age : 27 Location : Somewhere you'll never find!
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:19 am | |
| Yea exactly. But maybe Mia wants to be with Adrian?? So if she can get rid of Rose she can get him. And maybe she didn't like that age law thing either so she got ride of the queen at the same time?? Just a thought again. | |
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Phoenix
Posts : 575 Join date : 2010-07-01 Age : 29 Location : Dimitri's bed
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:19 am | |
| - RubyGemJuly wrote:
- Ye, but why frame Rose? She's a good friend 2 her now.
Like I said, I don't think there's a reason for Mia to do that, unless it's something we don't know about. But I still think it's unlikely. | |
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ElaBella
Posts : 2202 Join date : 2010-07-21 Age : 30 Location : Wherever the adventure is...
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:21 am | |
| The Adrian idea is good. Would she go that far though? Kill his great auntie to win his heart lol. I like the idea though. Anything is possible at this stage. | |
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Phoenix
Posts : 575 Join date : 2010-07-01 Age : 29 Location : Dimitri's bed
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:23 am | |
| Maybe.. but I don't think she would go that far.. I currently think Tasha is the most likely candidate, especially after someone pointed out that she didn't show up at all after the murder. Usually I would expect her to be at Rose's hearing. | |
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ElaBella
Posts : 2202 Join date : 2010-07-21 Age : 30 Location : Wherever the adventure is...
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:33 am | |
| So would I. It's really strange that she didn't turn up. | |
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Nightchild
Posts : 161 Join date : 2010-07-01 Age : 27 Location : Somewhere you'll never find!
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:53 pm | |
| Okay say that Tasha is the murderer - what would her motive be?? Well, maybe she's pissed off that Dimka choose to not work for her because he loves Rose. Maybe she still want Dimka to be hers. And she was clearly pissed off about the age law thing and those other stuff so...why don't kill the queen and blame Rose? That's two flies in one kill. And then no one is with Dimka...he is free to be with her... Just a thought ya know. | |
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ElaBella
Posts : 2202 Join date : 2010-07-21 Age : 30 Location : Wherever the adventure is...
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:55 pm | |
| It's a brilliant and strong motive for her. I think Richelle Mead is maybe trying to make us think this to take our eyes off someone else, or she hoped that we wouldn't guess Tasha. | |
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Phoenix
Posts : 575 Join date : 2010-07-01 Age : 29 Location : Dimitri's bed
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:56 pm | |
| - Nightchild wrote:
- Okay say that Tasha is the murderer - what would her motive be?? Well, maybe she's pissed off that Dimka choose to not work for her because he loves Rose. Maybe she still want Dimka to be hers. And she was clearly pissed off about the age law thing and those other stuff so...why don't kill the queen and blame Rose? That's two flies in one kill. And then no one is with Dimka...he is free to be with her...
Just a thought ya know. Exactly, she has motives to get rid of both Rose and the queen, she would probably know how to use a stake and it would still be a surprise to the readers because she always seemed so nice. | |
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Nightchild
Posts : 161 Join date : 2010-07-01 Age : 27 Location : Somewhere you'll never find!
| Subject: Re: Theories as to who killed the Queen? Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:57 pm | |
| Yep. It could actually be like that. Though I would be sad 'cause I think Tasha's real cool. | |
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