Theories as to who killed the Queen?

So, this book ended on the craziest cliffhanger of the entire series to date. Richelle Mead leaves us with very little clues as to who could have killed Queen Tatiana. So I have devised a few of my own theories. 
First of all, I don't think Victor killed the Queen. Why? Because he's been locked away for months and, like most convicts, probably has a new appreciation for freedom. Not only that but Rose didn't go after him in Las Vegas when he got away, making him realize he is truly free, at least for now. He also is in cohorts with his brother, Robert, who I can guess would try and talk him out of any scheming he might try and do especially if it involves Victor's freedom being revoked or having to be around other Moroi/dhampir. Aside from all that, Victor is the most obvious suspect, which would make for a rather pathetic mystery. 

Personally, I'm thinking Ambrose did it. He was close to the Queen. Trusted even. And in the book, once he finds Rose, he mentions having gone by her room to look for her (i.e. the perfect opportunity to steal her silver stake). He also gives Rose a note from the Queen just as Rose is leaving the courtroom, proving that he has had to have seen her recently. At least within 24 hours. What we do know about Ambrose is that he's a dhampir, probably trained in how to properly use a stake and to stake a Strigoi. But since he didn't become a guardian, no one can be sure. If you ask me, I think his character is clouded in mystery. We don't know much about him. I, myself, write stories and aspire to be an author. And at one time, I wanted to be a detective. Given those two qualities, I know how to weave a compelling tale, as well as figure out who the guilty party is most of the time. Though Ambrose's motive is uncertain, there is enough probable cause for me to consider him a suspect. 

I am also suspicious of Adrian's father, Nathan. The Queen made a grand show of insulting him in his own home. He also shows blatant dislike for Rose. If he killed Tatiana, he could rid his son of Rose and rid the Moroi society of the Queen. He has motive, certainly, but unfortunately lacks probable cause. 

I have tried racking my brain for other suspects as well but none are set in stone. I believe whoever killed the Queen, witnessed or heard news of the common abhorrence between her and Rose and simply used it to their advantage. Whether or not that person has a grudge against Rose is unfounded. Rose could simply be an unfortunate casuality in someone's sinister plot to assasinate the Queen. Anyone could have killed her with enough motive.  

I'd like to hear more theories though. Any takers?

Seriosolly this is one of those mysterious were I have no idea!! And am so confused I think it's gonna be a person we don't expect! And what motive would it give to victor. I mean rose bailed him out it could be Ambrose but why tho?

? Far- wetched...or worth giving this theory a thought???

It's quite possible. However, I still think Ambrose did it. Something about him is just off, to me at least. I am curious as to who Lissa's half-sibling is though. It would be kind of funny if it turned out to be Jill!

o.o so i guess ambrose is the big question right now.

Yes. I can't shake my suspicion of him for some reason. But I suppose only time will tell if he is guilty or innocent. The Queen's death was an inside job, I think. Someone close to her killed her. I was pondering about Daniella having killed her. She's another possibility. Maybe she hated the Queen and disliked Rose and found the oppurtunity to get rid of them both. She is family to Tatiana, albeit through marriage.

Yeah i know it wouldve been a good reason and to frame rose gah idk,,,

One of my theories is that ambrose might have done it. he was trained to be a gaurdian and probably taught how to use a stake too. and he probably could've gotten those records for the queen too. but there is a flaw in my theorie in fact probably many. ambrose loved his queen which makes me rethink the part in which he would've been the one to kill her. and i twould have been easy for him to do it and get rose's stake for it too i mean the gaurds wouldn't question someone the queen was likely to be "infatuated" with. but why would he? that's the question.

any opinion's?

maybe they got in a fight? or he cheated and she was mad or something?

I think it might have been Ambrose's aunt, or whoever she was... the fortune teller. She never really liked Rose, because she didn't belive in the cards, and maybe she found out about Ambrose/the queen's "relationship". Or maybe the queen killed herself! I mean, she never really liked Rose, although she did give her that note, and maybe she killed herself to get Rose in troiuble, and give her a chance to read the note. It could be one of the guardians that didnt like Rose. I don't know. All I know for sure is that it won't be Victor. He has no motivation anymore, now that he's free, and that would just make a terrible story.

I mean, it could be anyone for all we know. I think that there's a very real possibility that Eric Dragomir's illigitamte child or girlfriend could have done it. Maybe the girlfriend lives at the court or something. We don't really know enough yet to be making any conclusions.

i think that it would of been daniella, adrian's mum. as she was really anxious when she found out that adrian was with rose that night. i also think that it could because she was too nice to rose. also i think that it could of been adrian, i just find it that he was way too nice when he went to visit her that night.

my sister thinks it could be tasha as she hated the queen and what they were doing to stop her from using her powers for defensive measures.

Thank you, In_Love_With_Belikov83, for agreeing with my theory! I appreciate the support...Also about Ambrose being the murder...I really don't think so...first, it's too cliche and Mead won't write something so generic. Also, if we believe that Tatiana was actually the one who wrote the note, then we can also assume she knew she was in danger. it was mentioned in the note that if she (Rose) was recieving this note, then something bad had happened. And it sounded like Tatiana had written that note because she knew she was in danger, but she had to complete the task she was not able to, perhaps finding the illegitimate Dragomir child, and wrote it lest she was not able to finish it.
However, Ambrose had to know something. The Queen clearly trusted him, she would have told him something, anything.
And, honestly, yes, Daniella was nice to Rose, but I think it was more because she saw the change in Adrian brought on because of Rose(being sober)and was happy about it.

All i think, is if the queen was murdered there is only one person who would set it up.. the queen herself. I really believed the queen planned her murder. But, i guess the question remains who did the actually staking. I personally support the Ambrose theory. But, he did it out of love, not hate or anything.

The Queen killing herself?? Dude, she seemed like the kind who could pay somebody to kill for her. not kill herself. There's no motive, no ability to stab herself, and write a note to Rose saying that she needs to do something for her, giving it to Ambrose only if something "terrible" has happened to her??? Not to mention using Rose's stake would put suspicion on her, and Tatiana would ask for her help while she knows Rose's in jail???

I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but this theory goes way over my head, but maybe that was your reaction to my theories as well. However, I do know it's what you think, and I would like to know more about it. Also, what is your opinion to these questions??

OH! I was just re-reading Blood Promise and I came to the part when Nathan, the Strigoi, threatened Rose. And then I remebered what Nathan had said when he and Rose met for the first time. He claimed it was not the first time they had met...but Rose didn't remember him at all. That sounded fish, eh?

So, what was that about? Could he have been the illegitimate child? Or, the more likely theory, is he the killer of the Dragomirs??

What do you guys think???

sUrReAlwOrLd wrote:

The Queen killing herself?? Dude, she seemed like the kind who could pay somebody to kill for her. not kill herself. There's no motive, no ability to stab herself, and write a note to Rose saying that she needs to do something for her, giving it to Ambrose only if something "terrible" has happened to her??? Not to mention using Rose's stake would put suspicion on her, and Tatiana would ask for her help while she knows Rose's in jail???

I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but this theory goes way over my head, but maybe that was your reaction to my theories as well. However, I do know it's what you think, and I would like to know more about it. Also, what is your opinion to these questions??

I think she planned her own murder. Someone else did the actually staking/killing but under the queens orders/requests. She's just too scheming to be a victim. Everything she does is for a purpose ( good or bad). If she was killed, it was down with her knowledge. It's the only way to explain things like the note passing. She had to know she was going to die. Someone murdering her is just too mundane. Just what i think.

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I think she planned her own murder. Someone else did the actually staking/killing but under the queens orders/requests. She's just too scheming to be a victim. Everything she does is for a purpose ( good or bad). If she was killed, it was down with her knowledge. It's the only way to explain things like the note passing. She had to know she was going to die. Someone murdering her is just too mundane. Just what i think.

Oh, but she did know something something was going to happen to her. it was mentioned in the note, and I quote "Rose, if you are reading this, then something terrible has happened." It's obvious she knows she was in danger, and wrote to Rose to be given by Ambrose to her only if something happened to her. She needed someone to complete that task, and she chose Rose.
Hmm...but it could be that something may have happened to her, like the someone blackmailing her and she did it herself. But, still, most probably no. Because of the questions i asked before, they still stand. No ability to so it. And Ambrose doing it seems like a tale of heart breaking romance. Not murder, and nothing related to Eric Dragomir either. I don't now, it still seems to easy a theory. Not to mention, if that is the case, Rose would probably never get out, since there would be no proof that she did it herself.

I agree with sUrReAlwOrLd. Why would the queen kill herself but write the note beforehand? It just doesn't make sense in my opinion. I believe that the Queen was the one who hacked the Alchemist's files. I mean it would make perfect sense. Nobody would question that she as the one who did it. Plus, if she did know about what Eric Dragomir had done it probably would be motive for someone to kill her. Mabye someone who was close to Eric. Also i think the Queen took the files when Rose was in Las Vegas. Mabye she planned on Rose being suspected. And mabye it was someone who was at court and had access to all the rooms and knew about the relationship between Rose and the Queen and planned on setting up Rose. Because she would most likely be the most suspectable person for the Queen's murder. And they knew that if Rose was put up for discussion she wouldn't be able to defend herself.

I'm open to opinions.

sUrReAlwOrLd wrote:

OH! I was just re-reading Blood Promise and I came to the part when Nathan, the Strigoi, threatened Rose. And then I remebered what Nathan had said when he and Rose met for the first time. He claimed it was not the first time they had met...but Rose didn't remember him at all. That sounded fish, eh?

So, what was that about? Could he have been the illegitimate child? Or, the more likely theory, is he the killer of the Dragomirs??

What do you guys think???

I remember something about that too. Except in blood promise the only thing that Nathan says is "She was at that school in Montana. . . . We fought. . . . " His lips curled back, showing his fangs. "I would have tasted her blood if that fire-using Moroi brat hadn't been aroung."

But in Shadow kiss that was when Nathan threatened her.
This is where it starts______________

"I know you."

The words startled me. In all this bloodshed, none of us, friend or foe, did much talking. The speaker was a Strigoi who looked to be my own age but was probably at least ten times older. He had shoulder-length blond hair and eyes whose color I couldn't make out. They were ringed in red, which was all that mattered.

My only answer was to swing out with my stake, but he dodged that. Christian was setting a couple of other Strigoi on fire, so I was handling this on my own.

"There's something strange about you now, but i still remeber. I saw you years ago, before i was awakened." Okay, not ten times my age, not if he'd seen me when he was a Moroi. I hoped his talking would distract him. He was actually pretty fast for a young Strigoi. "You were always with that Dragomir girl, the blonde." My foot hit him, and I jerked my kick back before he could grab me. He barely budged. "Her parents wanted you to her guardian, right? Before they were all killed?"

"I am her guardian," I grunted. My stake swiped dangerously close to him.

"She's still alive, then. . . . There were rumors that she'd died last year. . . ." There was a sense of wonder in his voice, which mised wierdly with the malice. "You have no idea what kind of reward I'd get to take down the last living Drag-- Ahh!"

he'd dodged my stake from hitting his chest again, but this time I managed an upward strike that dragged the stake's tip accross his face. It wouldn't kill him there, but the touch of a stake-- so filled with life-- would feel like acid to the undead. He screamed, but didn't slow his defeenses.

"I'll come back for you when I've finished with her," he snarled.

"You'll never get near her," I growled back.
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Now if Nathan had been a Damphir before he was turned Strigoi then he could've been the Dragomir's Guardian. If not then there is a possibility that that he could be the illegitimate child of Eric Dragomir. Or he could've been the one to help plan the car accident that killed Lissa's family.

Yeah exactly...
But he won't be a guardian for the Dragomirs, because of the two reasons- first, Rose would recognize him if that were the case. She was close to them. Second, the guardians would have been under scrutiny, even if it was obvious that there was a car accident. There would have been gossip, they would have testified... And many other things. Not to mention, why would a guardian kill his own employers??? He must have been someone else's guardian... But oh! He is definately involved in the murder...of the Dragomirs.

i completely agree. the question is in what way is he involved in there murder? Because he said that he knew rose long ago before he was turned. so he had to be connected in some way to the Dragomirs, right?

(You know i hate books like these yet i love them too.
I hate them because they leave such terrible cliffhangers. But i love them because the cliffhangers leave you to your own imagination.)

He was paid to sabotage the car...by somebody, of course. But that's the question again-who??! And why???

That's always the question who and why? Whoever did it had to be in league with the Strigoi because Nathan kept goin about how praised they would be if they killed the last living Dragomir.


But of course WHO and WHY

i think tatiana asked ambrose to stake her.he got the files.tatiana knew the only way lissa would become queen was if tatiana was taken out of the picture.