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L.Dragomir
Posts : 809 Join date : 2009-07-01
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 1:55 am | |
| I had a feeling we'd never heard of Tomas before but read about Ms Karps lover. | |
| | | Not The Blood
Posts : 393 Join date : 2009-06-19 Age : 33 Location : Seattle
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 2:08 am | |
| Just finished and im posting from my phone so im going top make it quick I've never ben one to cry during a book but for this one its was literally shaking when dimitri was turned back! | |
| | | dimkaluv
Posts : 2344 Join date : 2009-01-22 Location : Serenity, The 'Verse
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 5:18 am | |
| - SecretMagic wrote:
- Firstly, my thoughts, then I’ll reply to people. (And I'm sorry It's a huge reply...I needed to get my thoughts out)
I’m in a state of shock right now. Mainly because we’ve been waiting so long for SB and now it’s come and gone leaving us with an even BIGGER story to come in the final book. Everything seemed to happen so fast. One minute we’re in the academy, then rushed off to Tarasov, Dimitri being saved, Tatiana’s death...its insane!
I love that Rose got a separate trial to the rest of the novices. It shows that they really wanted to put their recruits through the toughest challenges and to make sure they were testing them to the limits. It may not have been fair, because they were supposed to all be based on the same situations, but it definitely shows determined the academy guardians are to bring out the best in the novices.
The prison break and Victor situation was awesome. I’m so glad Eddie was involved, though it would have been nice if he’d been around more often towards the end of the novel too. So much thought went into the “rescue” I’m shocked at how well they put it all together, and in such sort a time. I’m also glad Mia had a hand in it. I’ve become very fond of her. Meeting Robert wasn’t at all like I expected it to be. I know we already knew they’d be going to Las Vegas, but I hadn’t expected them to meet in the middle of a casino/bar. And I can’t believe they ran off! I guess I can’t expect them to stick around with Rose and the Gang, not since they had the power to turn them in, but I still didn’t expect them to run off so quickly. I always liked Victor, he’s that good sort of Evil Villain, and I sort of feel bad for him considering he lost Natalie after knowing a way he was going to save her. That still doesn’t excuse what he did or made her do, but it’s all falling into place now. We see Natalie turning strigoi wasn’t really the last resort, it was just a back-up plan. I wonder what role he’ll play in Last Sacrifice.
Probably one of the main parts I hated about the book was Lissa learning to fight and in fact staking Dimitri. It was all too easy. She just happened to find guardians who were ok with the last Dragomir learning to defend her? I thought the whole point of her having her two guardians around her all the time was because she wasn’t expected to fight for herself, and if it ever came to the point where she was left alone to fend for herself then she probably wasn’t going to make it out of there by giving someone a slight punch to the face. I did, however, like the sexual tension that built up between Christian and Lissa. I sort of like it better than when they were always in love with each other, it made them more...human I guess isn’t the right word, but less perfect. When Lissa simply pushed through the fire and “saved” Dimitri I was ready to murder her. Not only was she risking everything, it was once again Spirit-Saving-The-Day. I get it, the serious is pretty much centred on Spirit, but there’s only so much spirit I can handle. And then when Dimitri started “worshipped” her I was seriously afraid he’d fallen in love with her; and, for that matter, that Lissa was falling in love with him too. She just seemed way too obsessed with being with him and way too quick to tell Rose to bugger off. I kept wanting her to tell Dimitri he wasn’t there to make demands and that because Rose was her best friend she was going to listen to her instead.
Onto Dimitri. Wow, Dimitri. Badass Dimitri; Affectionate Dimitri; Protective Dimitri; Strigoi Dimitri; Mysterious Dimitri; Controlled Dimitri; Depressed Dimitri...Way to suffer from serious mood swings! My original theory that Strigoi souls don’t actually go anywhere totally came true. Although it’s sad that the good part of them is sort of conscious when they’re doing all the bad things to people and no longer being themselves. I still have a soft spot for Strigoi Dimitri but I LOVE dhampir Dimitri. And even though the circumstances of his being restored were a bit rushed and insane, I LOVE that he’s back. I hated that he didn’t want to see Rose. I get that he hated what he did to her and that he didn’t think himself worthy of anything, but honestly! How could he not want to see Rose!? I was so glad when she went down there to see him, and I kept applauding her every time she got him angry. I know they didn’t want him to seem Strigoi-like if he was still being questioned, but at least she got some real emotion out of him. Depressed Dimitri was not one I liked. His public questioning thing was awesome. I love how Hans came through with everything and I also loved when they asked if anyone else had questions and Rose was like “Well someone has to ask something” and stepped up to do some interrogating. I also loved Jonathan and that he got the crowd giggling with his “he doesn’t seem very strong to me. I don’t think he’s a Strigoi.” The church scene had me smiling and crying. I smiled when Rose called him “Comrade” and when Dimitri was like “You were watching me the whole time” because, like Rose said, that meant he had to be watching her at some point too. But when he pulled to “love fades” line, my heart broke. I mean, we knew the line was coming, but I really hoped he wasn’t the one saying it. In the cafe I was so happy. Firstly, he was talking to her and I was proud of Rose for not ignoring him completely. And then when he defended her, he wasn’t going to let anything happen to her. I was so moved. Although, it does complicate things all over again. Here he is claiming that he doesn’t love her, and really wants nothing to do with her anymore, and just as Rose finally accepts Adrian as the one she’ll love Dimitri plays the hero-card and she’ll being falling for him again.
Speaking of Adrian. I love him, he’s so sweet to give up smoking and drink (mostly) all because of Rose. And even though she was doing some pretty stupid things by Rose-standard he still wanted to be with her. I was a little annoyed that he bit her though, and that Rose was for it. I thought that would bring up old memories of being captive with Dimitri and we all know she eventually thought that was a terrible thing to have let herself get into. I realise that Adrian biting her ever now and then wouldn’t be as bad, because his endorphin release would be significantly less powerful than Strigoi Dimitri’s was and also he wouldn’t be doing it everyday; but it was still wrong. Other than that I think he was awesome in this book.
Lissa having a half sibling is amazing. We keep finding out scandalous things about her family. First Andre and Mia, the “uncle” Victor, now Eric. I wonder where that story will lead to, and why someone was trying to get the Alchemists’ information on Eric, which was obviously leading to this discovery.
And finally, the big stuff. Guardian ages going down? I could not believe it. Where do these stupid moroi get their ideas from? What makes them so goddamn special that they have the right to waste the lives of dhampirs when there aren’t enough of them as it is. And who’s going to benefit from this drop of age? The ROYAL moroi, because they’re the only ones who get anything around here. I can’t believe that Tatiana didn’t ask for Rose’s opinion on Guardians being let out at a younger age. She wanted to present a just position on the matter, but withheld stuff too. I mean, in her letter to Rose at the end, she seemed to say that she only supported the movement because she didn’t like the alternative of forcing all dhampirs into early service, so why wouldn’t she try and sway those few people who wanted to lower the age? Why wouldn’t she ask Rose her opinion on the younger generation? Tatiana’s death came as the biggest shock. I was sort of semi-liking her. Not in a way that would make her my favourite character or anything like that, but she seemed sort of tolerable. She was fairly nice to Rose and I understand why she would want to kick her out during the council meeting once she started the name calling and such. It’s obvious to us that Rose didn’t kill her. But I can’t help thinking it’s someone she knows that did it. They said she died with a shocked look on her face, and while I guess if you had a stake shoved through your chest your might be a little shocked, but it’s almost as though she was REALLY surprised someone attacked her. I immediately thought Victor or Ambrose. But Victor left me because how the hell would he get into the Court? I know he’s crafty and probably has friends still in Court, but I just don’t think he could get in there, manage to find Rose’s room AND her stake without being seen, and then kill the queen. I do however like, I think it was Abe’s, comment about how Rose would have managed to get through all of the Queen’s guards, although Dimitri is proof that they’re not the best guards in the world, especially since he was taking them on singlehandedly. And with Ambrose, once he gave the letter to Rose I sort of lost my opinion of him doing it. He seemed to think that she’d have a good reason for what she does, and I can’t see him killing anyone. The whole point of him being at the court was because he couldn’t go through with the defending/killing part of being a guardian. And his personality just doesn’t fit. Maybe I’m wrong, but it just doesn’t seem right. I’m concerned about Rose’s stake being the weapon though. I can understand why she thought she’d left her stake in her room: she was supposed to be safe in the Court. I wonder who was close enough to her to get inside her room without someone noticing a strange person walking around the halls. Whoa... novel length. Firstly, OMFG DIMITRI'S BACK!! Ok, so who could have killed the Queen? I did think it was Ambrose at first, but now I'm not so sure. Daniella Ivashkov also came to mind since I got this feeling from reading that she could have an ulterior motive. It didn't look like she and the Queen got along very well. She also seemed pretty reluctant to help Rose after her arrest. She outwardly seemed to accept Rose and Adrian's relationship, but maybe after all she didn't actually want to see her son end up with a dhampir. I don't know. I don't see how Victor could have gotten into Court to pull it off. Abe could also be a suspect since it seems very easy for him to get his people around and acquire information. Even if he didn't do it himself, he could very well have sent someone to do it for him. I was actually pretty amazed by the Queen's murder. I totally was not expecting it. And the note at the end made me feel a bit guilty for being glad that she was taken out. lol But she was pretty bitchy and allowed for 16 year old dhampirs to be sent out to fight, so I'm not that sorry she's gone. I won't miss her. But it's so annoying that even though she's dead she still managed to cause more problems for Rose. Argh. Stupid cow!!! I'd think it so hilarious if her sexy boy toy was actually the one who did it. Anyone feel like the "enemy" prediction in Rhonda's tarot reading was someone other than the Queen? Since it seemed from Tatiana's note that she wasn't actually out to get Rose and from Rose being framed for the murder. It was too simple a conclusion for Tatiana to be the enemy. I definitely DID NOT like Rose getting naked with Adrian. ARGH!!! That made me so angry. Any time Adrian came anywhere near Rose I started to get prickly. It's not that I don't like Adrian. I like him. He's funny. But he and his silk boxers need to stay the hell away from Rose. All he does is confuse her and constantly make her feel guilty for still having feelings for someone she cared about deeply who was taken away too soon. I do give him props for growing up after Dimitri's change back into a dhampir. He seemed to get it then, but before that he always bothered her about it. I'm pretty annoyed by Rose's actions too. She knew she would never love Adrian or treat him the way he deserves because of her feelings for Dimitri, yet she still chose to be with him. All it's going to do is hurt Adrian more and I really hate that!! And Dimitri... I'm so so sooooooo glad he's back. I think I even cried a little. I really hate that he felt the need to keep away from Rose, but it's understandable. I'm hoping he can accept what happened to him and what he's done and be able to move on from it. And I hope that he'll go back to Rose and be with her. It was torture every time he rejected her. For me, it didn't hurt as bad as when he was taken in SK, but it was still painful to read. I felt so bad for Rose. But oh man. I'm just so glad he's back. I was pretty happy with Christian and Eddie in this book. I really missed them. And whoa, Eddie seemed different. It would have been nice if he'd had a larger role in the second half of the book, but I'm just glad he was in it at all. And it was interesting to see him get angry since when we've seen him before he's only ever been joking around or attempting to be the best guardian he can be. I liked seeing that attitude coming from him. I felt bad that he was angry at Rose because I'm usually on her side. I was hoping he'd be more understanding if he ever found out about her relationship with Dimitri and why she was going on this crazy quest to find a cure for Strigoi. I might have teared up a bit when they argued. lol I really liked Christian and Lissa together. I really missed him. He deserves to be happy. And even though Lissa still annoys me, I hope they'll stop being stupid and get together again. Christian's way sexy. lol I got so frustrated with Lissa and Dimitri after his change. I mean seriously, she could have pushed a bit harder to get Dimitri to see Rose. She gives up way too easily. It's like she only helps out if it'll bring around something she wants. The only reason she even saved Dimitri was so she could test out turning a Strigoi back for learning purposes. She didn't do it because she wanted to save him. She didn't do it for Rose. I always thought it should have been Rose to save Dimitri either way. Kinda lame that Lissa was the one to bring him back. Though I'm a bit confused... is Dimitri not shadow kissed to Lissa? That part where Robert was explaining it was difficult for me to follow. But it might have been because I was low on sleep at the time. I feel like the book was a bit rushed. The ending was too short. And now I feel like something's missing. Like... the whole rest of the book!! Seriously, why did it have to end there??? | |
| | | Wilda85
Posts : 2741 Join date : 2009-12-10 Age : 39 Location : FL
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 5:34 am | |
| - SecretMagic wrote:
- Tomas Sanders was the guardian in SB, the one that helped Rose and was in love with Ms. Karp. But ORIGINALLY the guardian who was in love with Ms. Karp and ran off to find her was Mikhail Tanner. Somehow he's switched names, OR Ms. Karp had two guardian lovers. It's in chapter 17 of VA, when they're going to the Mall/on the shopping excersion and they're in the car/bus thing and Lissa just finds out about Ms. Karp going Strigoi.
ok I don't remember seeing Tomas Sanders in SB.I looked it up VA and SB both say that Mikhail Tanner was MsKarp's lover. Va it'spg 236 and SB pg 86. He's the one that busts Rose when she's trying to get out with the files on Tarakov and she realizes who he is and says something about him being Ms Karp's lover...SO did his name get switched later on in SB?? Right now I am just confused cause I really don't remember seeing the name Tomas Sanders anywhere in SB. So if you could tell me roughly where in SB it mentions Tomas I'd appreciate it. | |
| | | Wilda85
Posts : 2741 Join date : 2009-12-10 Age : 39 Location : FL
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 5:46 am | |
| The explanation Robert gives is that when you are turned into a Strigoi you don't lose your soul completely. It's in an in between state. So he was never actually 'dead' therefore when Lissa healed his soul and brought him back he wasn't shadow-kissed.
The more I think about Dimitri and Lissa the angrier I get. I understand Dimitri's worship for her cause she staked him and healed his soul but him to not appreciate everything Rose has done for him I just want to kick him where it counts. And Lissa. Oh I am extremely upset with her. She's not even realizing what she is doing to Rose or just doesn't care. This bond between them is just ridiculous. I HATE it. I can handle Dimitri not wanting to be with Rose b/c of everything he did to her (even though it breaks my heart) but the bond between him and Lissa, I'm not handling that very well. I've never hated Lissa before but if she doesn't change in LS then I may end up hating her for it.
As for Adrian, he started coming around in the end. He understands now that Rose still loves Dimitri and will always care for him. I do believe Rose has started falling for him. She will never love him the way she loves Dimitri but she has something with Adrian and if everything doesn't work out with Dimitri then I'd love to see tings work out with Adrian. I've really become attached to him. I'm still team Dimitri but Adrian has really grown on me. I don't want to see him hurt. I don't want to see any of them hurt but in the end one of them wiill get his or her heart broken.
Oh and I never even thought about the tarot card talking about a different enemy. I mean I really didn't think it was Tatiana b/c she really wasn't acting like an enemy to Rose but it still never crossed my mind that it was someone else. I wonder who that someone is. I think Victor would be too obvious. He understand why Rose is liek she is towards him b/c of everything he did to her and Lissa. But who else could it be? I guess anyone.
And Daniella did cross my mind but I quickly dismissed it. It's possible it was her, hell at this point it could have been anyone. She never fully accepted Rose and Adrian's relationship. Like she told Rose she knows they will never get married so why worry about it right now. I hate her for having that janitor lie about the time adrian got there. I understand she did it so he wouldn't be involved at all but still. And you would think they would ahve cameras everywhere. In all the buildings and all the hallways. That would ahve helped Rose out alot. See her entering her room and still being there when Adrian came and then not leaving til way after the queen was murdered. But noooo that would ahve just been too damn easy. | |
| | | SecretMagic
Posts : 3290 Join date : 2009-06-11 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 6:07 am | |
| - Wilda85 wrote:
- SecretMagic wrote:
- Tomas Sanders was the guardian in SB, the one that helped Rose and was in love with Ms. Karp. But ORIGINALLY the guardian who was in love with Ms. Karp and ran off to find her was Mikhail Tanner. Somehow he's switched names, OR Ms. Karp had two guardian lovers. It's in chapter 17 of VA, when they're going to the Mall/on the shopping excersion and they're in the car/bus thing and Lissa just finds out about Ms. Karp going Strigoi.
ok I don't remember seeing Tomas Sanders in SB.I looked it up VA and SB both say that Mikhail Tanner was MsKarp's lover. Va it'spg 236 and SB pg 86. He's the one that busts Rose when she's trying to get out with the files on Tarakov and she realizes who he is and says something about him being Ms Karp's lover...SO did his name get switched later on in SB?? Right now I am just confused cause I really don't remember seeing the name Tomas Sanders anywhere in SB. So if you could tell me roughly where in SB it mentions Tomas I'd appreciate it. You're kidding!? Your page 86 in Spirit Bound says "Mikhail Tanner" ... the guy who helps her get the files, he introduces himself at Mikhail Tanner? Mine says "Tomas Sanders"! Tomas is the guy who helps her, who comes to court with her, and helps her break into the court prison to see Dimitri. Why would they have two different copies of the book? And what made mine (and a whole heap of others because people on Penguin Australia's forum have been discussing the name change) be different? Lol, Ash, you thought I wrote a novel. No, he's not shadow kissed because he technically didn't lose his soul. It was just a loose connection of sorts. Spirit "healed" him, it didn't bring him back to life. I agree with you both Ash and Wilda, Lissa definitely wasn't so interested in saving Dimitri because of Rose. If she'd just been doing it for Rose then she would have stopped thinking about it when Rose told her it was too dangerous. But she's so obsessed with learning everything Spirit has to offer that she thought of no-one but herself. I hate that she finds something new about spirit and suddenly she has to know EVERYTHING about it. Hasn't she realised by now, there are so many different spirit powers, she can't control them all. | |
| | | dimkaluv
Posts : 2344 Join date : 2009-01-22 Location : Serenity, The 'Verse
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 6:19 am | |
| - SecretMagic wrote:
- Wilda85 wrote:
- SecretMagic wrote:
- Tomas Sanders was the guardian in SB, the one that helped Rose and was in love with Ms. Karp. But ORIGINALLY the guardian who was in love with Ms. Karp and ran off to find her was Mikhail Tanner. Somehow he's switched names, OR Ms. Karp had two guardian lovers. It's in chapter 17 of VA, when they're going to the Mall/on the shopping excersion and they're in the car/bus thing and Lissa just finds out about Ms. Karp going Strigoi.
ok I don't remember seeing Tomas Sanders in SB.I looked it up VA and SB both say that Mikhail Tanner was MsKarp's lover. Va it'spg 236 and SB pg 86. He's the one that busts Rose when she's trying to get out with the files on Tarakov and she realizes who he is and says something about him being Ms Karp's lover...SO did his name get switched later on in SB?? Right now I am just confused cause I really don't remember seeing the name Tomas Sanders anywhere in SB. So if you could tell me roughly where in SB it mentions Tomas I'd appreciate it. You're kidding!? Your page 86 in Spirit Bound says "Mikhail Tanner" ... the guy who helps her get the files, he introduces himself at Mikhail Tanner? Mine says "Tomas Sanders"! Tomas is the guy who helps her, who comes to court with her, and helps her break into the court prison to see Dimitri. Why would they have two different copies of the book? And what made mine (and a whole heap of others because people on Penguin Australia's forum have been discussing the name change) be different?
Lol, Ash, you thought I wrote a novel. No, he's not shadow kissed because he technically didn't lose his soul. It was just a loose connection of sorts. Spirit "healed" him, it didn't bring him back to life.
I agree with you both Ash and Wilda, Lissa definitely wasn't so interested in saving Dimitri because of Rose. If she'd just been doing it for Rose then she would have stopped thinking about it when Rose told her it was too dangerous. But she's so obsessed with learning everything Spirit has to offer that she thought of no-one but herself. I hate that she finds something new about spirit and suddenly she has to know EVERYTHING about it. Hasn't she realised by now, there are so many different spirit powers, she can't control them all. I'm pretty sure I've never seen/heard the name Tomas Sanders until I saw it on here. I was sorta lost on that part of the discussion... lol My book says Mikhail Tanner. Do the Aussies have paperbacks of SB? Maybe it's something with those printings. Here in the US we all have hardcovers. Weird though. Thanks for the explanation guys. The thing about Dimitri not being shadow kissed was bothering me. That's interesting though. I think everyone thought that Dimitri would be shadow kissed if a spirit user saved him. Nice twist there. I don't know. For some reason, everything Lissa does bothers me. She's so ungrateful!! Maybe I'm being too judgmental of her. But she really seems selfish and stupid a lot of the time. She didn't even think that if she died while testing out her Strigoi-save abilities that it would affect anyone else. How it would affect Rose. Stupid stupid stupid!! However, I didn't feel too bad about Dimitri clinging to Lissa after his change. He'd been through a lot and felt safe with her. What bothered me more was that Lissa didn't do much to encourage him to see Rose. She was being selfish again. Just like at the end of SK. | |
| | | Wilda85
Posts : 2741 Join date : 2009-12-10 Age : 39 Location : FL
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 6:23 am | |
| yep I just double checked even pg 348 it says Mikhail. It says Mikhail throughout the whole book. He's the one who helps Rose, Lissa, and Eddie escape the Royal Court. he helps Rose see Dimitri and he escorts Rose to her hearing at the end. I thought I was srsly going crazy but my book doesn't mention Tomas at all. Thats weird how the Australian copies do. You'd think both the US and Australia would be the same cause they are both in English.
Did anyone else notice a name change? Does your book say Mikhail or Tomas?
Normally Lissa doesn't bother me too much. But SB she just irritated the hell out of me. I guess I can understand Dimitri clinging to her cause she did heal him but she knew how Rose felt about him. She also knew that Dimitri needed to face Rose and face what he did to her in order to get over it. So no she wasn't thinking about anyone but herself imo. She's got some kind of bond with him and I feel like she just didn't want to share him. I could be wrong but right nwo thats how I feel. | |
| | | Nessi
Posts : 53 Join date : 2010-05-03 Age : 31 Location : Sweden
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 6:28 am | |
| - Wilda85 wrote:
- yep I just double checked even pg 348 it says Mikhail. It says Mikhail throughout the whole book. He's the one who helps Rose, Lissa, and Eddie escape the Royal Court. he helps Rose see Dimitri and he escorts Rose to her hearing at the end. I thought I was srsly going crazy but my book doesn't mention Tomas at all. Thats weird how the Australian copies do. You'd think both the US and Australia would be the same cause they are both in English.
Did anyone else notice a name change? Does your book say Mikhail or Tomas?
Normally Lissa doesn't bother me too much. But SB she just irritated the hell out of me. I guess I can understand Dimitri clinging to her cause she did heal him but she knew how Rose felt about him. She also knew that Dimitri needed to face Rose and face what he did to her in order to get over it. So no she wasn't thinking about anyone but herself imo. She's got some kind of bond with him and I feel like she just didn't want to share him. I could be wrong but right nwo thats how I feel. In my books he's called Mikhail | |
| | | Wilda85
Posts : 2741 Join date : 2009-12-10 Age : 39 Location : FL
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 6:31 am | |
| Hmmm....Why would it only be Australia's copies. This is srsly bugging me! | |
| | | Nessi
Posts : 53 Join date : 2010-05-03 Age : 31 Location : Sweden
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 6:34 am | |
| - Wilda85 wrote:
- Hmmm....Why would it only be Australia's copies. This is srsly bugging me!
Me too, and I've got no idea. I might be abel to look in the Swedish translation tomorrow and see what his called there. | |
| | | SecretMagic
Posts : 3290 Join date : 2009-06-11 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 6:36 am | |
| Yeah, we have paperback, we always have paperback...it's still strange though. Why would they completely change the name? lol, it's bugging you Wilda? At least you have to original name in your book! I looked through all the Penguin forum posts and everyone who mentioned "Tomas" was an aussie. There's something seriously wrong with our books. Lol. Maybe I'll email the Penguin Australia people tomorrow and ask them what their opinion is on the matter. I'd do it tonight, but it's 10:30 and I'm slightly sleepy, so I'm not sure how well my words will come out.
It annoyed me the way he was looking at her. It would have been different if all he was was grateful, but the worshipping? That went a bit too far. | |
| | | dimkaluv
Posts : 2344 Join date : 2009-01-22 Location : Serenity, The 'Verse
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 6:39 am | |
| - SecretMagic wrote:
- It annoyed me the way he was looking at her. It would have been different if all he was was grateful, but the worshipping? That went a bit too far.
lol Yeah. The only one Dimitri has any business worshiping is Rose. Lissa just does not seem to care about anyone else's feelings. That's what bothers me. | |
| | | angeleyes279
Posts : 4 Join date : 2009-07-29
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 7:21 am | |
| I'm really happy that you have the same feelings about Lissa like I have.... while reading SB I really got angry about her.. why does she behave like that? I dont understand it. I thought she would do everything for Rose after the ending of SK but she's still selfish and doesnt care about others. that really pissed me of. Im happy that Lissa could save Dimitir but i dont like why she did it... like others say before she only did it for herselve and not for rose. she should have stand up for rose and bring rose and dimitri together so they could work their problems out. i think with her behaviour she made it all worse.
omg whats going on with dimitri? i really lost some of my faith that rose and he will be togehter at the end. i cant think about that. but its good to read that you guys also want him and rose together and not her and adrian. i like adrain but he's not a good choice for rose.
i dont thought it would go on like this... i can' wait 'till december to know how it all will ends =( | |
| | | Wilda85
Posts : 2741 Join date : 2009-12-10 Age : 39 Location : FL
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 9:40 am | |
| Yeah, i is bugging me. I'd just like ot know whats up with them changing his name in The Australian books. it doesn't any sence to me.
It's not the I don't want Rose with Adrian. I've come to love Adrian. I think he would be very good for her IF things don't work out with Dimitri. Right after i read SB, all my faith in them 2 went down the drain. But now it's picking back up a little. Even if she ends up happy with Dimitri again, I just don't want Adrian to get hurt but like I said before no matter what someone will get hurt in the end... | |
| | | Peace love n VA
Posts : 2298 Join date : 2009-09-28 Age : 36 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 10:19 am | |
| - Wilda85 wrote:
- Yeah, i is bugging me. I'd just like ot know whats up with them changing his name in The Australian books. it doesn't any sence to me.
It's not the I don't want Rose with Adrian. I've come to love Adrian. I think he would be very good for her IF things don't work out with Dimitri. Right after i read SB, all my faith in them 2 went down the drain. But now it's picking back up a little. Even if she ends up happy with Dimitri again, I just don't want Adrian to get hurt but like I said before no matter what someone will get hurt in the end... I cant see a happy ending either. but i know what i dont want, someone to die and the choice be made for Rose. That would be heartbreaking( cause someone died) and also a cop out. Even rose said it, with Adrian she is pulling a Manson all over again. | |
| | | rozaluvsdimka4eva
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2009-10-08 Age : 30 Location : Virginie
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 12:35 pm | |
| I kind of felt like it went SUPER fast. And the weird thing is I don't want the last book as bad as I wanted SB. | |
| | | Wilda85
Posts : 2741 Join date : 2009-12-10 Age : 39 Location : FL
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 1:25 pm | |
| OMG I never thought about ti coming to that Tasha. I'm all teary-eyed just thinking about Dimitri or Adrian dying. UGH I hope it doesn't come to that | |
| | | SecretMagic
Posts : 3290 Join date : 2009-06-11 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 5:17 pm | |
| I'd never thought of that ending Tasha. Let's hope it's not a complete "Mason". It'd all be too simple if one was knocked out of the running though, and Richelle's rarely made the story simple (except when Lissa staking Dimitri turned up)
Wilda- It's not just the Aussie books, the UK books say Tomas Sanders too, except I think we get our prints from the UK to start with, so that might be why ours have the change. Someone from the Pegnuin forum asked RM on her blog about it, so hopefully we'll get an answer as to why it was changed. soon | |
| | | rozaluvsdimka4eva
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2009-10-08 Age : 30 Location : Virginie
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 5:17 pm | |
| Oh god me either! I think all our hearts will break. | |
| | | L.Dragomir
Posts : 809 Join date : 2009-07-01
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Fri May 21, 2010 9:06 pm | |
| I've got Australian print this time. Its uses Tomas thoughout.
Thats weird. Different names for the same character in different editions. | |
| | | rozaluvsdimka4eva
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2009-10-08 Age : 30 Location : Virginie
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Sat May 22, 2010 8:22 am | |
| That is weird I thought they came out in the same print no name changes? | |
| | | darkangel24
Posts : 784 Join date : 2010-02-15 Age : 40 Location : Somewhere over the rainbow with Dimitri
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Sat May 22, 2010 5:31 pm | |
| I just finished reading SB and OMFG! I'm glad Dimitri is back but could have been less of an a**hole to Rose. I mean she put her career on the line to follow a small lead she had of saving him. I mean yes it was Lissa who acatually healed him but he wasn't thinking about waht Rose did for him. And the love they had couldn't have "faded." I mean I he hates himself for what he did to her but doen't that just show that he still loves her.
Anyway, I'm glad Lissa and Christian are back together. I like how Adrian (although I'm still praying that Dimitri and Rose get back together) stood by Rose's side even with her crazy ideas. And there is no way that Richelle is going to have Rose executed. And about the Queen's death, I'm wondering if some how Victor got in the Court and is trying to frame Rose. I mean she did help capture him when he kidnapped Lissa and then testified against him, so why not get revenge and work his evil plan at the same time?
Oh and their laws suck! | |
| | | L.Dragomir
Posts : 809 Join date : 2009-07-01
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Sat May 22, 2010 7:01 pm | |
| Adrian being by Rose's side shows how much he does actually love her. I'm starting to feel sorry for him.
I kind of expected Dimitri to push Rose away try set her free so she could have a normal guardian life. But him totally refusing to see her was mean. She deserved a explanation at least.
Glad Lissa and Christian are back together. | |
| | | rozaluvsdimka4eva
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2009-10-08 Age : 30 Location : Virginie
| Subject: Re: SB spoilers Sun May 23, 2010 12:32 pm | |
| Pretty smuckign amazing how everything turned out huh?
Yay! Everythign is right and wrong in the VA world. | |
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