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PostSubject: Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here!   Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here! Icon_minitimeSat Mar 07, 2009 4:22 am

You see, I have figured out a certain theory for the first 3 books..

Vampire Academy-Rose's friend, Lissa is captured; guardians went to save her; friend(natalie) turns & dies
Frostbite-Group of friends is captured; they have to save themselves; friend(Mason) dies
Shadow Kiss-School attacked by Strigoi; guardians went to attack them; and friends(including Dimitri) either turned or captured; people die
Blood Promise-?

I thought that maybe there's a link or sequence for the series, so we can come out with a simple theory for the fourth book.
What'd you think of the simple theory for the fourth as marked by '?' above? Note that the above theories revolve around Strigoi, attack, save, capture and death only. Invalid theory will be e.g: Victor captured by guardians and locked up.

To me I think is: Attack Strigoi; captured and tortured by Strigoi; rescue from friends; rescue Strigoi; friends/loved ones die
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PostSubject: Re: Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here!   Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here! Icon_minitimeSat Mar 07, 2009 6:13 pm

Seems plausible. I just hope a certain guardian who may or may NOT have been turned doesn't die. Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here!   Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here! Icon_minitimeFri Jun 19, 2009 10:21 pm

here is the pattern i see, most of what the Moroi/Dhampir community and/or Rose believe in, is proven wrong, these are my points...


*At first they didn't´t believe in the bond between Rose and Lissa

*They hadn't really known or understood spirit until Lissa came out, they just thought she (and the others) wouldn't specialize

* They thought that no student could get out of school, meanwhile Rose and Lissa managed to stay away for two years

* They have these ideas about the ¨blood whore¨ communities and as Dimitri said, not everyone is like that

* They had, or at least Rose had the idea that all Dhampir men became Guardians, even though Ambrose was a blood whore

* The inmortal debate of ¨should Moroi´s fight and use their powers¨ when at some point they did, they just got ¨lazy¨ when there wasn't much to worry about. BUT they didn't have much to worry about since they were fighting along with the Guardians and got rid of a lot of Strigoi. but when they decided it was safe and stopped fighting , guess what? the Strigoi came back.

* It turns out that using Novices and Moroi magic is extremely useful.

* They also believe that Strigoi couldn't work together, for their evil doings.

* And that humans wouldn't help them.

* And that their wards couln´t be penetrated

* Everyone thinks Christian and Tasha are evil because of his parents, and up until now we haven't seen them in any wrong doings.

* They always thought Victor was an OK dude, until they realize he was a slimy kidnapper

* Ghost don't exist. but we still saw Mason. Even if he isn't a ghost, he was something no one has ever seen or even heard of.

* Dimitri and Rose couldn't find a way for them to be happy and together. Until Dimitri did. He managed to to find a scenario in which he and Rose would be together and not risk Lissa


So the pattern here is, they keep being wrong. So why cant they be wrong about Strigoi? at least on in particular.
Rose has shown that she is more powerful than everyone thought. So why can´t Dimitri´s love for Rose, or the love of being a Guardian, or love of doing the right thing, or all of them put together, be so powerful it can over throw the evilness of being Strigoi.
Maybe he did change into Strigoi, but didn't loose his humanity, and somehow finds a way to live in a not bad Strigoi way, why can´t there be good Strigoi? they only really need blood to survive, they don´t NEED to kill.
Maybe only the Strigoi who wanted to change are evil.
we never really saw the difference between the ones who turned by choice and the ones who didn't have a choice. or is there even a difference?
since no one has explored the Strigoi lifestyle, we don´t have actual facts, just speculation of what they are. Just like the communities of Dhampir mothers, they just think they are ALL blood whores, while someone who actually lived there, would say that there are exceptions, so why cant there be an exception in Strigoi?

I also think that the whole ¨he´s my other half¨ thing will play into this in some way.

well thats a lot of ranting i came up with at 4 o´clock in the morning, but i think thats it.

so what do you guys think? think my theory has a a chance? or will it also be proven wrong? XD
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PostSubject: Re: Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here!   Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here! Icon_minitimeSat Jun 20, 2009 7:22 pm

You know what? You make some good points. It seems like the Moroi/Dhampir culture is based on a lot of prejudice, presuppositions and stereotyping. And then like you said, they have to be proven wrong about their beliefs.
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PostSubject: Re: Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here!   Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here! Icon_minitimeSun Jun 21, 2009 2:30 pm

and the fact that we don't really know about the vampires who were changed unwillingly. Or just that we haven't heard of any differences, yet.
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PostSubject: pattern   Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here! Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 2:50 pm

each book some one is captured rescued and someone dies. That pattern follows my theory for book four. Obviously Victor Dashkov is behind everything. Victor ultimately want's to get to lissa but to do that he has to lure her through rose. In order for Victor to get to rose he has to lure rose through Dimitri. The blond strigoi is someone close to victor carrying out his evil plans. I think Lissa will go after Rose thus making herself vulnerable. So basically your theory fits perfectly here. Dimitri is captured now and rose and Lissa and Adrian will end up trieing to rescue him. Also I think Rose's mother Janean the bad ass guardian will also go after Rose and realize what was going on between rose and Dimitri. In the end following your pattern I think Rose's mom will die in place of Rose.

There's alot more to this theory but it would take forever to get to all the details on how this works. It all falls together nicely though. But that was the jist of my theory.
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PostSubject: Re: Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here!   Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here! Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 2:52 pm

oh yeah and the fact that victor doesn't know about Adrian possessing spirit yet comes into play in a major unexpected way.
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PostSubject: Re: Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here!   Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here! Icon_minitimeSun Aug 16, 2009 6:47 pm

Just so you know, Jill, your theory is COMPLETELY off. (See BREAKING NEWS topic for why I know that it's off)
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PostSubject: Re: Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here!   Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here! Icon_minitimeSun Feb 28, 2010 7:29 pm

I don't think Dmitri's love could because he can't love anymore. On the bridge it was an epiphany...Oh that's what I should've said and it would've convinced her. The only time he came close to real affection was when he was holding the ring.
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PostSubject: Re: Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here!   Help me see a pattern if there's any.. Some spoilers here! Icon_minitimeThu Mar 17, 2011 3:44 pm

Yeah, Strigoi don't feel emotions. Maybe Richelle should do a spin-off series, not just on the alchemists, but on the strigoi!!!!! :O HUGE REALIZATION!!! Razz
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