WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT SPIRIT BOUND?

You can't say it doesn't go along with Tasha's character, because then you can also claim that kidnapping Lissa doesn't go along Victor's character because he's a nice man who is like family to her. Lissa and Rose trusted both Victor and Avery. So what makes you think that the killer is not someone they trust as well?
And yes, that would be great, if dhampirs would finally stand up for themselves.

Tasha hates the queen but she wouldn't stoop so low and work with victor because she hates him and he tortured lissa. Why would she want to be in his evil plans. evil prick. it's a possibility but it's uncertain.

All we can do is guess.. We won't know until December.

Chantie15 wrote:

Tasha hates the queen but she wouldn't stoop so low and work with victor because she hates him and he tortured lissa. Why would she want to be in his evil plans. evil prick. it's a possibility but it's uncertain.

Tasha does have some motives. Her own people have treated her and her nephew like crap because of the choices Christian's parents made a long time ago. The guy she wanted to have a family with also rejected her for a teenager. The ruling to lower the age for graduating dhampirs may have been the final straw that broke the camel's back for Tasha. I also find it suspicious that after Tatiana was murdered Tasha was nowhere to be found. Victor proved that seeming like a nice and trustworthy friend is not enough to rule anyone out as a suspect.

extraordinarygirl86 wrote:

Tasha does have some motives. Her own people have treated her and her nephew like crap because of the choices Christian's parents made a long time ago. The guy she wanted to have a family with also rejected her for a teenager. The ruling to lower the age for graduating dhampirs may have been the final straw that broke the camel's back for Tasha. I also find it suspicious that after Tatiana was murdered Tasha was nowhere to be found. Victor proved that seeming like a nice and trustworthy friend is not enough to rule anyone out as a suspect.

Exactly, that's why I think it could have been her. The only problem is that I don't see how would Tasha be able to get to Tatiana with all those guardians around...

Phoenix wrote:

extraordinarygirl86 wrote:

Tasha does have some motives. Her own people have treated her and her nephew like crap because of the choices Christian's parents made a long time ago. The guy she wanted to have a family with also rejected her for a teenager. The ruling to lower the age for graduating dhampirs may have been the final straw that broke the camel's back for Tasha. I also find it suspicious that after Tatiana was murdered Tasha was nowhere to be found. Victor proved that seeming like a nice and trustworthy friend is not enough to rule anyone out as a suspect.

Exactly, that's why I think it could have been her. The only problem is that I don't see how would Tasha be able to get to Tatiana with all those guardians around...

Yeah, I haven't been able to come up with any theories about that one. The only thing I can come up with is maybe Tasha didn't commit the murder alone. Maybe she got some help from a pissed off guardian.

Or maybe more than one.

Hey Pheonix,
I didn't know much about Victor before he went bad. We only had a couple of glimpses of him being very weak and sick. He always seemed more interested in Lissa than his own daughter. I thought that was weird. I also thought it was weird that he bought Rose that expensive necklace. If something seems too good to be true, it probably is. I didn't find Victor's betrayal all that shocking.

Natalie on the other hand was a huge shock for me. I didn't think killing all those animals matched her character either. In the end she was trying to win her dad's approval.

I still don't think Tasha has the personality of a killer. But, the only people I know for sure didn't kill the queen are Adrian, Lissa, Dimitri, and Rose.

What I'm trying to say is that we don't know what kind of personality characters have, because it's not always revealed to us. It's not always what it seems. Tasha may seem nice and everything, but what do you know what hides under the surface? Victor, Natalie, Avery.. They all seemed nice and good and everything, but they weren't. So you can't know if Tasha is actually a completely different person than she pretends to be. She is not an important character and Rose doesn't know her well so we don't know much about her. Even things we do know might be her cover. Maybe I'm wrong about her, because that's just my guess, that she might be the killer. But either way, I'm convinced that the killer is someone Rose trusts and it's going to be a surprise to all of us. So you can't dismiss the possibility of someone being the killer based on what they seem to be like.
And I agree, I think neither Adrian, Lissa, Dimitri nor Rose killed her. I also think that the fortune-teller is our clue, because Richelle always leaves us something to work with. So I would say the killer is a woman, based on what Rhonda said.

Tasha doesn't seem likely to act alone but even if she did kill the queen she wouldn't have done it with victor on any circumstances. She did really hate the queen but i'm not sure if that's enough to push her over the edge :/ but her personality fits the crime but her beliefs don't. She wouldn't result to murder just because she was pissed at someone. what would dimitri think of her then? or the others for that matter?

But they wouldn't know. If her plans worked, they would all blame it on Rose.

Tasha requested rose as her guardian for a back up from lissa, why would she do that if she secretly hated her? Rose and them kind of have the same mindset and their both baddass.

Tasha wouldn't want to spend the rest of her life with rose if she diliked her and wanted to set her up. OR MAYBE.....Tasha knew rose would be able to get out and be strong enough to proove she was innocent but tasha couldn't defend herself with her bad reputation because the royal families diliked her? do you think?

It's either that she wanted to make sure to leave an impression of liking Rose, just in case, or maybe she didn't know about Rose and Dimitri at the time and found out about it later?

I don't know u guys, the Tasha idea is starting to go all over the place, we have motives for her to be the killer, but we also have evidence that points us away from her.

Well, the only thing that points us away from her is the fact that we don't know how she got to Tatiana with all the guardians around.

and why would she betray Rose after putting a request in for her to be her guardian.

IT HAS TO BE ABEEEEE! Think about it he has connections and he knows she has given rose a hard time in the past and he "magically" turns up at the trial when it's meant to be a 24 hour flight from russia and he never left except to see rose at the trials! come on he works for a secret business it has to be him!

RubyGemJuly wrote:

and why would she betray Rose after putting a request in for her to be her guardian.

Because she found out Rose is the reason Dimitri turned her down? It makes sense.
And I don't think it's Abe. Of course, anything is possible, but I would really hate it if it turned out it was him.

I don't think Abe was involved, he had reached Court in such a short time cos he has connections so he must've heard it from someone and went straight there.

Phoenix wrote:

RubyGemJuly wrote:

and why would she betray Rose after putting a request in for her to be her guardian.

Because she found out Rose is the reason Dimitri turned her down? It makes sense.
And I don't think it's Abe. Of course, anything is possible, but I would really hate it if it turned out it was him.

I don't want it to be Abe either. I really like the relationship Rose is starting to establish with her father and I would hate to find out that his fatherly concern for Rose was all fake.

I really don't think it's Abe. We already got a surprise when it comes to him - he seemed to want to harm Rose or something and turned out to be her father and a great person. It wouldn't make any sense if he would turn out to be something completely different after all.

well it was only a thought i mean he does have alot of connections and he's zmey "the serpent" he's meant to be untrustworthy and cunning (not to rose though cause she's his daughter) so i wouldn't be surprised if he pullled some strings to get it done. It could very well be likely it's him we'll have to wait and see then.

Chantie15 wrote:

well it was only a thought i mean he does have alot of connections and he's zmey "the serpent" he's meant to be untrustworthy and cunning (not to rose though cause she's his daughter) so i wouldn't be surprised if he pullled some strings to get it done. It could very well be likely it's him we'll have to wait and see then.

What could Abe have to gain from framing his own daughter though? Sure, he is a shady guy that's involved in a lot of dirty dealings, I don't consider that enough to make him a suspect though. I can't think of any motives he would have to murder the Queen and frame his own daughter for her death.

And I thought Richelle said Abe would be in the spin-off series? If he's one of the characters that's confirmed to be in the new series then he can't be the killer since his punishment for murdering Tatiana would be death.

extraordinarygirl86 wrote:

What could Abe have to gain from framing his own daughter though? Sure, he is a shady guy that's involved in a lot of dirty dealings, I don't consider that enough to make him a suspect though. I can't think of any motives he would have to murder the Queen and frame his own daughter for her death.

And I thought Richelle said Abe would be in the spin-off series? If he's one of the characters that's confirmed to be in the new series then he can't be the killer since his punishment for murdering Tatiana would be death.

Your right, Abe has no motive what so ever to frame his own daughter, and why would he want to kill Tatiana anyway?

What's Jill's surname, ladies?