confused about joshua

ok in the earlier books you all remember Richelle mentioning that that dhampirs can not have kids with other dhampirs that they can only have kids with moroi. well than what was that thing with joshua where he was talking about rose and himgetting married and having kids together because he was a dhampir too right?

HannaNara wrote:

ok in the earlier books you all remember Richelle mentioning that that dhampirs can not have kids with other dhampirs that they can only have kids with moroi. well than what was that thing with joshua where he was talking about rose and himgetting married and having kids together because he was a dhampir too right?

There were a lot of fact errors in LS, like Rose seeing ghost while she was in court and others. Sadly, I think this was one of them.

but with the ghosts, Rose didn't have to try and block them out b/c of the wards around Court, but she wanted them to come to her, so i guess she called them to her and they managed to get through, or something like that.

RubyGemJuly wrote:

but with the ghosts, Rose didn't have to try and block them out b/c of the wards around Court, but she wanted them to come to her, so i guess she called them to her and they managed to get through, or something like that.

What ghosts are we talking about? When?

The getting married part and having babies could be something as simple as either Joshua not knowing or Dhampirs among the Keepers adopting children? (Or perhaps they get pregnant by being with either a human or a Moroi? They seemed very open-minded when it came to sex, making out in the public at the gathering Rose, Dimitri and Sydney attended.)

End of chapter 1 and start of chapter 2, when Rose was in the jail cell...she wanted to find Tatiana so she could confirm that the letter was actually from her and not an imposter.

RubyGemJuly wrote:

End of chapter 1 and start of chapter 2, when Rose was in the jail cell...she wanted to find Tatiana so she could confirm that the letter was actually from her and not an imposter.

Ah, yes! I read it again and that's certainly no mistake. Richelle writes that the magical wards keep most ghosts away, as they should. I guess there's a difference in being invaded (unintentionally) by the ghosts when there are no wards, and actually inviting them in, which is what she's doing here. I guess no wards can keep the ghosts out if the person actually wants them there.

dbelikova wrote:

RubyGemJuly wrote:

End of chapter 1 and start of chapter 2, when Rose was in the jail cell...she wanted to find Tatiana so she could confirm that the letter was actually from her and not an imposter.

Ah, yes! I read it again and that's certainly no mistake. Richelle writes that the magical wards keep most ghosts away, as they should. I guess there's a difference in being invaded (unintentionally) by the ghosts when there are no wards, and actually inviting them in, which is what she's doing here. I guess no wards can keep the ghosts out if the person actually wants them there.

Actually, its what writers call a cheat. Where they change a fact they wrote before to fit the story line. Like, killing off a character and then saying later it was only a dream.

If you don't believe me re-read Shadow Kiss and Blood Promise. She explained in those books that Rose was was only able to see the ghost outside the wards, since no undead could pass them like Striogi and Ghost.

As for Joshua, either he didn't know better, being naive since they had open relationships and had mulitple partners or RM made a mistake. Like I said, if you re-read the book, you'll find tons of mistakes. I love the part when Adrian was talking with Rose about her cheating on him and at first he was lying on her bed and then stood from a chair in the same paragraph.

Don't take this the wrong way at all. I still really liked the book, but as a writer myself, I catch these little details and I can tell she wrote the book fast by the number of mistakes I caught while reading. It happens even to the best of us. Overall, she still did a great job to turn out that many pages in that short period of time. Some writers need at least six months or a year to write something as good as she did.

OK, I rest my case

That scene with Adrian at the end, you're right, I did actually think about that when I read it, lol.

But it wasn't the kind of mistakes you mention that got me while reading, especially LS, it was all the linguistic mistakes. Most likely a result of poor editing or proof reading due to the haste in getting the book out. Hopefully they'll have time to correct some of those in further editions.

Richelle is only human and mistakes are bound to happen. Sometimes, i think its a case of being to close to the project u know what i mean? Like when i'm trying to proof read my own work- it never works. I'm too close to it. and Editors aren't really proofreading the story for fact checking. So these types of things are bond to happen.

I actually think the thing with Joshua wasn't a mistake. I have a feeling he believed they can have kids and maybe it has something to do with the humans. Their world is still pretty unknown to us- so i think it's all intentional. Especially if they ( Joshua) makes an appearance in Bloodlines.

Peace love n VA wrote:

Richelle is only human and mistakes are bound to happen. Sometimes, i think its a case of being to close to the project u know what i mean? Like when i'm trying to proof read my own work- it never works. I'm too close to it. and Editors aren't really proofreading the story for fact checking. So these types of things are bond to happen.

I actually think the thing with Joshua wasn't a mistake. I have a feeling he believed they can have kids and maybe it has something to do with the humans. Their world is still pretty unknown to us- so i think it's all intentional. Especially if they ( Joshua) makes an appearance in Bloodlines.

Maybe you're right. We'll have to see what she writes in Bloodlines. There will be six books in the series. A lot of pages, which could eventually discuss the topic further.

but that raises another question why would bloodlines have the keepers? i mean isn't i suposed have nothing to do with these six books or was she just saying that rose wouldn't be in it?

Not necessarily. RM just wanted to make it clear the story won't focus around the characters we're used to it being focused on-with Rose as the narrator . She did say Rose will make an appearance. But just that. an appearance. The story is taking place in the same world. And i honestly see potential for the keepers to make an appearance in bloodlines. Remember, Sydney is going to be a main character in Bloodlines.... and in LS, she was upset the alchemists hadn't visited the keepers in awhile. So i wouldn't be surprised to see her make a return trip there.

It seems very likely Sydney should be involved with the Keepers somehow. It feels like RM introduced them for a reason, it would be interesting to find out more about them now that she has done so.

Maybe because Joshua has a human mother, he can be a father. The dhampires from the Keepers are able to do that where as dhampires from dhampire/morioi have become sterile (with other dhampires) over the generations??

rozafan wrote:

Maybe because Joshua has a human mother, he can be a father. The dhampires from the Keepers are able to do that where as dhampires from dhampire/morioi have become sterile (with other dhampires) over the generations??

I was thinking along those lines too. Moroi+human= fertile dhampir? Could be.

I think it was a heat of the moment kind of thing. He was just fantasizing about their future not really thinking as he spoke.