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vampire_lover96
Posts : 30 Join date : 2010-12-05 Age : 28 Location : Sydney
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:00 am | |
| yeh i do hope eddie ends up with someone after whats happened to him he should if not sydney perhaps mia shes been through a rough patch 2 with her mum maybe they will end up together hey who knows she might bring other characters not mentioned much like jesse and ralf she might even mention avery though she went kinda crazy so i doubt it but then again richelle mead is and unexpected writer | |
| | | torii143
Posts : 4148 Join date : 2009-08-27 Age : 30 Location : Wherever Dimitri is .;) hehe!
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:12 pm | |
| - HannaNara wrote:
- I perfer RoseXDimitri as a couple but i also kinda like adrian and it made me angery how rose treted him he didn't desever that. and all those things that adrian said to rose at the end when he was in her room even though i like rose and she is one of my faves i still think she deserved every word he said and some. i hope adrien can find someone who will treat him right and become the man we all know he can be, which is a great man.
P.s YAY LISA IS QUEEN! LONG LIVE QUEEN LISA! MAY SHE BE A FAIR AND JUST RULER OF THERMORI AND TREAT EVERYONE FAIRLY! WAIT WHA AM I SAYING OF COURSE SHE WILL CAUSE LISA IS AMAZING! YAY! Idk i like lissa as queen will have to see what she does. | |
| | | Annieb
Posts : 4 Join date : 2011-01-27
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:28 pm | |
| I just finished reading LS and I'm so glad I'm not the only one bothered by how it ended with Adrian and Rose. I've always known Rose would end up with Dimitri, there was just no way around it. But really? Did Adrian really had to find out that way to just add that much more to his heartache? His heart was going to get broken regardless but really, as Rose said.... no honor whatsoever on Rose's part. Dimitri at least tried to stop her and wanted to wait but no, Rose will do what Rose wants....
I do hope Adrian will be in BL and will have a happier ending but I don't see him with Jill. He strikes me as more of a big brother to Jill and helping her than anything else.... | |
| | | vampire_lover96
Posts : 30 Join date : 2010-12-05 Age : 28 Location : Sydney
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:27 am | |
| yeh when rose did that to him it made me sad i always saw her as the person who is strong and wouldnt hurt anyone(mental not physically like strigoi) if there was a way around it and yeh i still see her as that person but i kinda lost a bit of respect for her she could of stopped and waited i think it would of been better if she broke up with him in the dream then wat she did but i guess it turned out the way it did i hope he finds happiness and i think eddie and mia should end up i just like them as a couple and hopeful jill does to (just not with adrian)i think they wouldnt work as a couple i think i will alwayz see her as jailbait | |
| | | Annieb
Posts : 4 Join date : 2011-01-27
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:28 pm | |
| yeah, I definitely lose respect for Rose after what she did. I just can't get around it and truthfuly, glad her part is over because I'm not sure how much more of her I can take after what she did. She did something horrible yet she gets her happy ever after. Don't get me wrong, I love that Rose and Dimitri ended up back together. I always saw them as a couple and no one else, but I'm done with her story line.
I think Mia and Eddie will make a great couple! I hope Adrian finds someone too, and yes, definitely not Jailbait, LOL! All the talk about Adrian and Sydney, I don't see that as well.... there has to be someone better. | |
| | | vampire_lover96
Posts : 30 Join date : 2010-12-05 Age : 28 Location : Sydney
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:10 am | |
| yeh i get wat u mean about rose i like her but wat she did was cruel i know she doesnt have a lot of patiences and all but if she really loved adrian like she said she did then she would of waited i want her to be with dimitri but not that way i really like adrian and i really want him to be happy and i still like rose but wat she did well i think shes a bit*ch for that but i guess she kinda deserved her happy ending after everything but the way she got it well with adrian heartbroken tasha locked up(even though its not roses fault that she killed the queen) jill stuck with ass royals eddie in heaps of trouble and sydney locked up welll the only good that happened was lissa being queen and rose happy but is it really worth it yeh shes been through heaps but shes also causes alot of damage too i think it would of been alot easier and less heartbreak if she waited with dimitri and lissa would of sent jill away i hope lissa can get eddie and sydney out of trouble.
i hope eddie ends up happy and hopefully its with mia and adrian i hope he finds someone and jill too just not together and i hope sydney ends up happy to and i hope rose and dimitri help them and are fine and lissa and christian.
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| | | dimkaluv
Posts : 2344 Join date : 2009-01-22 Location : Serenity, The 'Verse
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:59 am | |
| - vampire_lover96 wrote:
- yeh i get wat u mean about rose i like her but wat she did was cruel i know she doesnt have a lot of patiences and all but if she really loved adrian like she said she did then she would of waited
The thing is... she really *didn't* love Adrian. And that was sort of the point. When has Rose ever waited for anything? lol You think she cares about waiting to be with Dimitri - the love of her life - when she can't even keep herself from punching someone without thinking through the consequences first? | |
| | | dbelikova
Posts : 146 Join date : 2010-09-21
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:28 pm | |
| - dimkaluv wrote:
- vampire_lover96 wrote:
- yeh i get wat u mean about rose i like her but wat she did was cruel i know she doesnt have a lot of patiences and all but if she really loved adrian like she said she did then she would of waited
The thing is... she really *didn't* love Adrian. And that was sort of the point.
When has Rose ever waited for anything? lol You think she cares about waiting to be with Dimitri - the love of her life - when she can't even keep herself from punching someone without thinking through the consequences first? True. I mean, everything she went through, all the crazy things she set off to do was to at first: kill Dimitri, then to: save Dimitri. The second she learned there was a chance to restore him, she was off. After all the time and everything she went through, the moment she understood that he still loved her - bingo! The love of her life, the one to make her feel complete, the missing part of her soul and heart, stands within her reach and tells her he still loves her. Would you have waited? I wouldn't. And I'm not as impulsive as Rose, lol! | |
| | | Annieb
Posts : 4 Join date : 2011-01-27
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:25 pm | |
| Here's the thing, at the end of the book, she was trying to come across as more mature and I don't know, I feel like taking other people's feelings into consideration kind of falls into that getting more mature category.
I get that Dimitri is the love of her life and yes, it would be really hard to wait too. But the issue I'm having with Rose is that it doesn't seem like she gives a hoot about anyone but herself, Dimitri, and Lissa in those last few chapters. I know that's not the case so please don't jump down my throat. I guess what i'm trying to say is, I wouldn't even treat a friend like that not to mention Adrian has gone to lengths to help her cause of Kill Dimitri then Save Dimitri. He was not just a friend. He cared deeply for her and even is she didn't love him, she cared enough about him that I felt she could have handle it better.
Not to beat a dead horse and all, and maybe Richelle just ran out of space/time/words/pages, but Rose didn't push to get Eddie out of trouble which we all know she could, nor follow up on what happened to Sydney.... yes, I know both Sydney and Eddie will be followed up in the new book and maybe that's why Richelle left it the way they did. But it just seems that Rose got her happily after and couldn't give another thought to those that suffered because of her. True, they had a choice, but they chose to help Rose because they're her friends.... so I just felt like she could have done more...
Geez, the more I think about it the less respect I have for Rose.... I really do hope the new books will shed some new lights on her so I will think better of her again.... LOL! | |
| | | dimkaluv
Posts : 2344 Join date : 2009-01-22 Location : Serenity, The 'Verse
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:00 pm | |
| Even if they didn't know the finer details, they all had to have realized that anything regarding Rose would be extreme/dangerous. Eddie said he went along with Rose's plans because they're friends. Don't forget, he's not above doing reckless things either, unless you consider that stunt he pulled in Spokane with Mason a family vacation. He knows exactly what he's getting into. Also, Rose warned him beforehand that what they were doing in SB would be illegal and just plain bad. He never said he wouldn't have helped her if he'd known. Eddie is responsible for what he chooses to do and who he chooses to help. People always jump on Rose for not doing anything to help him. Dude, she's pretty awesome but she can't save everyone! lol At least she considered it and felt guilty for having things go her way when others were left a mess. Or do you need to reread the beginning of chapter 36? As for not following up on Sydney... well that'd have to RM's fault there. I really think she should've tried to tidy ALL the ends, but we also still don't know what she has coming for any of the characters. Also, Rose can't control what Abe does with Sydney. Whatever their business arrangement is, it doesn't concern Rose. If Abe has Sydney do something for him, Rose can't be held responsible for where it takes her. Besides, Sydney could always just pack up and leave even though it might risk what she has at stake with Abe. IF there was a way for Rose to help either of them, she would have. But the things Eddie did were really his own fault and nothing Rose could help him with. And Sydney's problems began WAY before she even met Rose. Yeah it sucks that Rose cheated on Adrian, but that's life. Rose chose to be with the person that she knew she not only had fun with, but who understood her and made her happy. That person wasn't Adrian. Now he has to put on his big boy pants and deal. It's like that saying: Wish in one hand, sh!t in the other. See which gets filled first. | |
| | | Annieb
Posts : 4 Join date : 2011-01-27
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:36 pm | |
| Yes, I know Rose can't be blamed for everything, each had their own free will The thing is, she didn't think about them until Adrian brought it up. I think we'll have to just leave it at that everyone will perceive how it all went down differently. I LOVE Dimitri and love that Rose got her happily ever after (or as far as we can tell). I just really adore Adrian and see great things to come for him. Anyway, it's over and I'm hoping for a brighter future for Adrian, Eddie, Sydny, Jill etc. | |
| | | dimkaluv
Posts : 2344 Join date : 2009-01-22 Location : Serenity, The 'Verse
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:06 pm | |
| lol Well after getting shot, I think the first things she cared about were whether she was dead and that Lissa was alright. | |
| | | vampire_lover96
Posts : 30 Join date : 2010-12-05 Age : 28 Location : Sydney
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:42 pm | |
| yeh i love rose and all but i just dont think what she did with adrian was right i no she has no patience and all and really if dimitri told me he loved me well i dont think i'd be able to resist but with adrian she said she loved him and dimitri told her he wouldnt do that to adrian and rose kept pushing and pushing to get him toi still like her but i just dont think she should of done that to adrian because after all adrian had to do to help her then she couldnt wait to tell him he had to see it himself i just dont think thats right.
with rose helping eddie i think only lissa can help that because he did kill a moroi and rose had nothing to do with that and with sydney well if rose wasnt so impatient then sydney wouldnt be there so i thik she should of helped with that but then again she still might because i heard that richelle kept what happened to her secret because bloodlines is on her which everyone kinda assumed so what happens to her is in BL and not LS so maybe thats why rose didnt help her.
and yeh i can see how shes kinda of just thinking of herself at the end but then again she did get shot
dont get me wrong i love rose and dimitri together but at the end of the day i think what happened with adrian wasnt right but i guess no 1 is perfect. | |
| | | torii143
Posts : 4148 Join date : 2009-08-27 Age : 30 Location : Wherever Dimitri is .;) hehe!
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:19 pm | |
| I like what said o one is perfect. And hey there's still bloodlines I'm sure Adrain isn't finished:) | |
| | | vampire_lover96
Posts : 30 Join date : 2010-12-05 Age : 28 Location : Sydney
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:25 pm | |
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| | | PrettyLittleLiar
Posts : 71 Join date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Tue May 10, 2011 7:04 am | |
| The book was great and the ending was surprising but I wasn't too happy about how Rose and Dimitri had a happy ending. Adrian was a great guy who had bad qualities but a good heart. I honetly hated Rose for how she did him at the end.I hope he doesn’t fall into darkness behind it. Despite all that was done by him, you can tell he really loved Rose and she really broke him. I agree with those who said that Rose only cares about Dimitri and Lissa. She is a good person but at the end of the day, I think she was the most selfish of the series. She only cared about Lissa and Dimitri and she basically used who ever she could to help those two people. She basically used Sydney for her resources and kind of kicked her to the curb afterwards. She played nice with her dad to get the help. She used her mom for emtional support at times but could really give two hoots about her. She most defeintely used Adrian for his money, resources and his emtional support. She played with him for the time being but always knew she wasn’t that into him. He feel in love with her and Rose still was rather heartless at the end of it. Maybe Richelle wrote it wrong but I’ve come to really dislike Rose. She is a hero in a sense but she is a selfish one who looks out for the well being of a few select people and will use anyone else to save her, Lissa and Dimitris ass. She really burned me with Adrian since he really is a lost soul who wanted to find that one ligth in his life. Rose was that and she was never really into him and could give two craps bout his feelings at the end of it. Yet he still did for her when Dimitri needed his to spirt his image. | |
| | | PrettyLittleLiar
Posts : 71 Join date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Tue May 10, 2011 7:06 am | |
| Adding on...I'm glad that Adrian will be in the next series.
Hate to say it but I hope Rose is M.I.A. Dimitri as well.
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| | | twinklystar_hp
Posts : 10 Join date : 2011-06-21
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:08 am | |
| - PrettyLittleLiar wrote:
- The book was great and the ending was surprising but I wasn't too happy about how Rose and Dimitri had a happy ending.
Adrian was a great guy who had bad qualities but a good heart. I honetly hated Rose for how she did him at the end.I hope he doesn’t fall into darkness behind it. Despite all that was done by him, you can tell he really loved Rose and she really broke him.
I agree with those who said that Rose only cares about Dimitri and Lissa. She is a good person but at the end of the day, I think she was the most selfish of the series. She only cared about Lissa and Dimitri and she basically used who ever she could to help those two people.
She basically used Sydney for her resources and kind of kicked her to the curb afterwards.
She played nice with her dad to get the help.
She used her mom for emtional support at times but could really give two hoots about her.
She most defeintely used Adrian for his money, resources and his emtional support. She played with him for the time being but always knew she wasn’t that into him. He feel in love with her and Rose still was rather heartless at the end of it.
Maybe Richelle wrote it wrong but I’ve come to really dislike Rose. She is a hero in a sense but she is a selfish one who looks out for the well being of a few select people and will use anyone else to save her, Lissa and Dimitris ass.
She really burned me with Adrian since he really is a lost soul who wanted to find that one ligth in his life. Rose was that and she was never really into him and could give two craps bout his feelings at the end of it. Yet he still did for her when Dimitri needed his to spirt his image.
hi! i just joined this forum, and i cudnt have agreed more with ya! though rose was one of my fav narrators from the beginning, yet she really started to annoy me there in the last two books, when it was CLEAR that she was just using adrian for her timepass.. it's not wrong, if he was willing as well, yet we knew, SHE KNEW, that he was TRULY into her, she knew he was probably looking for an honest chance, not just a chance to have some cool makeout sessions and rest of the time pine over dimitri.. i dunno, even though i'd known rose was a selfish character, and she mostly only cared abt two ppl - dimitri and lissa, yet i'd still expected her to do things the right way, u know.. i never had expected her to do wrong with some1... so when she did do wrong with adrian, that kinda got to me.. and as for the whole issue in this thread of dimitri - the guy she loved, her "soulmate", she saves him from the dead then she ffinds he still loves her, how can any1 wait?? well, ppl, there r things like commitment.. why really did terms like cheating orginate? becuz of issues liek commitment.. she was, whether she LOVED ADRIAN or not, she was officially (in adrian's eyes, in dimitri's eyes, in everyone's eyes) adrian's gf.. i think, she OWED adrian atleast an honest breakup before she took the next step with dimitri... i dunno, that's just wht i felt.. she cud've done things differently... dimitri wasn't going anywhere, the world wasn't going anywhere.. but i think alll that her actions showed me at the end was, exactly wht u said PrettyLittleLiar, that at the end, she may have thought that she matured, but she didn't... because her actions at the end showed she may have become mature when it came to protecting lissa, but she was still selfish immature girl at the heart.. she only cared abt herself, lissa, dimitri.. she went to all extents to save herself, and the other two, gladly getting ALL the help she cud.. yet brushing thought of all of them to the side when it was all done.. and adrian, she cud've done things differently with him..she just cud've... she led him on, that's wht she did.. she led him on to believe there cud be something more between the two, something deep.. and u can't blame adrian for thinking that, u can't blame ANY1 for thinking that, if the love of ur life gives u a chance.. but at the end, it showed that heck bf, rose didn't even treat adrian as a FRIEND... she was totally indifferent towards him, specially after she had started dating him..she used his money, she used his physical intimacy for distraction... and left him broken hearted while she NON-HESITANTLY, went forward to start her life with dimitri.. aaaah... i guess wht i wanna say is, i always loved rose, and i really did think she was better than this, yet again knowing her i guesss she wasn't.. and the series ended with me losing QUIET A LOT of my respect for her... which is a good thing i guesss, cuz now i m really glad to have sydney as a narrator.. and with her being the opposite of rose, i think i'll love her! =) aite guys, i just wanted to get across a point.. i LOVE adrian... but even if i HADN'T loved adrian, i still wud've thought negatively of rose after her actions at the end..it just didn't seem right to me.. anywayz, we all have our own opinions and perspectives, so i really don't mean to start any arguments.. i was just happy to see there r ppl who share my view as well! =D oh, and i absolutely LOVEE the idea of adrian sydney.. i know there's the complication of sydney hating morois.. but hey, there r 6 BOOKs in the series, i think such a hatred theme is the BEST kinda love story we cud get! she hates moroi, YET she can't help being attracted to one, one who is the baddest of the morois that too! hehehe... poor girl! =D | |
| | | twinklystar_hp
Posts : 10 Join date : 2011-06-21
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:10 am | |
| - PrettyLittleLiar wrote:
- Adding on...I'm glad that Adrian will be in the next series.
Hate to say it but I hope Rose is M.I.A. Dimitri as well.
woah, it's like ur speaking my mind! =D yeah, ditto! | |
| | | torii143
Posts : 4148 Join date : 2009-08-27 Age : 30 Location : Wherever Dimitri is .;) hehe!
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:06 am | |
| - PrettyLittleLiar wrote:
- Adding on...I'm glad that Adrian will be in the next series.
Hate to say it but I hope Rose is M.I.A. Dimitri as well.
I can see what u mean about Adrain and rose. I'm curious if Adrain and Sydney will get together in bloodlines. | |
| | | twinklystar_hp
Posts : 10 Join date : 2011-06-21
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:36 pm | |
| - xTeamDimitrix wrote:
- PrettyLittleLiar wrote:
- Adding on...I'm glad that Adrian will be in the next series.
Hate to say it but I hope Rose is M.I.A. Dimitri as well.
I can see what u mean about Adrain and rose. I'm curious if Adrain and Sydney will get together in bloodlines. i sure hope they do!! my goodness, it seems even before the books have started, i've become like a CRAZY adrian/sydney shipper! lol! | |
| | | lyssa1315
Posts : 21 Join date : 2011-06-10 Age : 27 Location : Im a hobo
| Subject: Re Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:43 pm | |
| I was very sad about Adrain but it was expected that this would happen. Rose just couldn't let go of dimika. I hope in the spin off series he will find his mach. But I also think at the end of the book the way he acted was childish. Adrain always got what he wanted in all the books. I get that he was mad and heart broken.but couldn't he see it coming. In the book it said how auras say so much so i think he was in denial. About rose and dimitri until he saw him kiss rose. | |
| | | twinklystar_hp
Posts : 10 Join date : 2011-06-21
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:18 pm | |
| - lyssa1315 wrote:
- I was very sad about Adrain but it was expected that this would happen. Rose just couldn't let go of dimika. I hope in the spin off series he will find his mach. But I also think at the end of the book the way he acted was childish. Adrain always got what he wanted in all the books. I get that he was mad and heart broken.but couldn't he see it coming. In the book it said how auras say so much so i think he was in denial. About rose and dimitri until he saw him kiss rose.
well, i don't really think adrian was childish.. yeah, perhaps denying rose and dimitri had feelings despite rose being all crazy was wrong on his part.. but rose KEPT INSISTING throughout SK that she wanted them (rose adrian) to work out... and then, for him to do so much for rose, and for her to CHEAT on him.. honestly, cheating doesn't feel good... i mean, nobody, no matter how good or bad they r, likes it when the person they "think" are committed to them cheats on them..he had asked rose clearly, at end of SK, to be clear abt where they stood..and rose had told him, that she wanted them (adrian rose) to work out.... she had the chance there to say, " no adrian, don't think we'll work out..my heart is still with dimitri"... but she didn't.. she gave him false hope.. now adrian may have been slightly immature in the sense that he failed to deny the clear attraction and feelings b/w rose.. but really, how many of us r SO STRONG as to let the person we love go (if we think they love someone1), when they themselves "claim" that they also feel for us.. not every1's so strong to do that.. =) adrian may have gotten whtever he'd wanted from the beginning, but is that an excuse for him to deserve betrayal..?? :S he's stubborn, he's arrogant - yes..but from his POV: he loved her, she first loved dimitri..then when it was clear dimitri was gone, he asked her out.. she said yes..he did so much for her, and she cheated on him... i know now, this is not exactly wht happened, that there were REASONS..but this guy did not see them.. and this is why i don't think adrian was childish or wrong in wht he said to rose =) hehe sorry, i'm just a big adrian fan, PLUS i really didn't like the idea of rose sleeping with dimitri while officially committed to adrian..it's not just abt us being independent beings responsible to ourselves only..when we commit to some1, willingly or unwillingly, we OWE honesty to that person.. rose owed adrian explanation, a proper breakup, before she took the next step with dimitri..just for the sake of the commitment she'd made to him.. dunno, that's just how i feel though.. :$ | |
| | | lyssa1315
Posts : 21 Join date : 2011-06-10 Age : 27 Location : Im a hobo
| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:26 pm | |
| - twinklystar_hp wrote:
- lyssa1315 wrote:
- I was very sad about Adrain but it was expected that this would happen. Rose just couldn't let go of dimika. I hope in the spin off series he will find his mach. But I also think at the end of the book the way he acted was childish. Adrain always got what he wanted in all the books. I get that he was mad and heart broken.but couldn't he see it coming. In the book it said how auras say so much so i think he was in denial. About rose and dimitri until he saw him kiss rose.
well, i don't really think adrian was childish.. yeah, perhaps denying rose and dimitri had feelings despite rose being all crazy was wrong on his part.. but rose KEPT INSISTING throughout SK that she wanted them (rose adrian) to work out... and then, for him to do so much for rose, and for her to CHEAT on him.. honestly, cheating doesn't feel good... i mean, nobody, no matter how good or bad they r, likes it when the person they "think" are committed to them cheats on them..he had asked rose clearly, at end of SK, to be clear abt where they stood..and rose had told him, that she wanted them (adrian rose) to work out.... she had the chance there to say, " no adrian, don't think we'll work out..my heart is still with dimitri"... but she didn't.. she gave him false hope..
now adrian may have been slightly immature in the sense that he failed to deny the clear attraction and feelings b/w rose.. but really, how many of us r SO STRONG as to let the person we love go (if we think they love someone1), when they themselves "claim" that they also feel for us.. not every1's so strong to do that.. =) adrian may have gotten whtever he'd wanted from the beginning, but is that an excuse for him to deserve betrayal..?? :S he's stubborn, he's arrogant - yes..but from his POV: he loved her, she first loved dimitri..then when it was clear dimitri was gone, he asked her out.. she said yes..he did so much for her, and she cheated on him... i know now, this is not exactly wht happened, that there were REASONS..but this guy did not see them.. and this is why i don't think adrian was childish or wrong in wht he said to rose =)
hehe sorry, i'm just a big adrian fan, PLUS i really didn't like the idea of rose sleeping with dimitri while officially committed to adrian..it's not just abt us being independent beings responsible to ourselves only..when we commit to some1, willingly or unwillingly, we OWE honesty to that person.. rose owed adrian explanation, a proper breakup, before she took the next step with dimitri..just for the sake of the commitment she'd made to him.. dunno, that's just how i feel though.. :$ I am also a big adrian fan but rose belongs with demitri. That doesnt exuse her cheating on him. It was wrong, but she couldnt let adrian go before lissa was elected queen. She needen him to help lissa and what do you think a spirt dream would be like after they were over. It does seem like she was using him, i think she was when she took off to siberia, but not now lissa and jill needed things to happen and they might not have been accomplished if rose broke up with adrian. Rose kept insisting that she wanted to be with adrian because she did. She really did love him but it wasnt the same as demitri. SONYA tells rose that they should be together their auras match and that is very rare. i agree that rose did owe a proper brake up to adrian. Rose said in the book that that was the reason she wouldnt do it in a dream. and when dimika and rose slept together they lost control and couldnt stop their feelings for each other. rose did not give adrian false hope she wanted to be with him and enjoyed being with him. adrian had spirit powers, he could see auras . He should have seen it, and he even says he saw it. He was in denial, and if he didnt see it it was because he was drunk. ik tht he was drinking to cope with the affects of spirt but he could have asked for help from lissa and especially rose. Again it was expected that rose would end up with dimitri. She never described her feelings for adrain were as strong as dimitri. She couldnt let go of dimika; and in books the first love allways 'wins' in the end. sorry | |
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| Subject: Re: Adrain? -spoilers- Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:14 pm | |
| abt rose dimitri, i totally agree with u, rose and dimitri were meant to be..that was abvious form the start..and even though in the middle there i'd had started to hope for rose adrian, but even then i knew it cudnt be, becuz it had to be dimitri.. so i had no prob with rose dimitri getting together.. wht i did hav the small bit of prob was with the cheating part..and i think the biggest issue i had was how, atleast TO ME, rose seemed quite indifferent towards adrian at the end there.. she cheated on the guy, i think a sincere apology was required.. reminding him of how he depended on her only broke him even more, IMO.. i will admit though, i didn't thoroughly read the last book :$ i skimmed through it, just cuz i was so fed up of rose by SK.. but the overall impression i got was that having used adrian, she felt indifferent towards him..i think even some guilt there wud've been appropriate.. she DID afterall sleeep with dimitri WHILE he believed her to be his gf... i think he deserved a tru apology.. , .but she was so indifferent towards adrian throughout SK and LS , specially everytime she was with dimitri or thinking abt dimitri.... infact the moment dimitri turned back from strigoi, every time rose had a scene with dimitri there was no thought of adrian.. and if she truly did care abt adrian (differently than dimitri, ofcourse), then he deserved atleast some regret from her part.. :S i dunno, for me, the way she treated him throughout SK and LS, was as if he meant NOTHING... like just some random guy who if he popped up in her dreams then she'd remember, but otherwise who adrian? which bf?? that was the kind of attitude i felt rose had towards adrian, and that's wht i had the prob with.. as for adrian, totally, he denied the auras... but ONLY becuz she led him on... now, on rose part, i agree with u again, her insistence to adrian that they cud work out may not have been fake from her part.. she TRULY may have believed that they cud work out.. but with her constantly longing for dimitri and pursuing dimitri, trying to make him talk to her, trying to make everything like it was, in SK, did not show that she wanted her and adrian to work out..clearly, in SK, the moment dimitri had returned, rose wanted to get together with dimitri again! and here's thedeal - she shud've broken up with adrian, right that moment in SK.. . the way i see it, she had adrian as a distraction, as some1 to play around with until dimitri returned...some1 with whom she cud get pleasure WHILE still pining over dimitri.. which, is not technically wrong, since adrian wasn't so unaware of her feelings or past either.. buttt... she still shud've made sure he didn't have any serious expectations from their relationship.. i think, the moment adrian had asked her out, she shud've told him that they'd just "have some fun" for awhile..no serious commitments... because clearly, she wasn't ready, or capable, of having any serious commitments with any1 other than dimitri.. while adrian took her 'yes's' as a potential for serious future... i;m sorry, i know many here love rose.. even i loved her.. but... well i had this favourite show once...and i LOVED the couple in it.. but a similar situation (guy cheating on girl this time) happened.. and there was no remorse or regret later on from the guy's part.. he MAY have had a "moment" with the girl, but it's important to sincerely apologise and regret cheating on some1.. and after that, anytime i see something like this, u know, cheating on the people u've willingly committed urself to, i just can't help but feel negatively abt it... :$ i think more than her cheating, it's the fact that she treated him so poorly throughout that really gets to me.. i'll be honest, i kinda lost interest in both rose and dimitri after awhile.. so, all my focus used to be on adrian.. which is why, everytime rose (in SK) wud start running towards dimitri, i'd think "wait, wht abt adrian? u just said yes to him! u just made him believe u were happy with having relationship with him! woahhh why r u longing for dimitri now? go break up with adrian first!!" ... lol.. haha, that was how my reaction was throughout Sk =D hahah.. then i gave up all hope in her in LS =D lol... but heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, it ended.. and i am EXTREMELY happy for rose and dimitri, mostly becuz now adrian can have his own story! | |
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