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PostSubject: Re: What are your theories for Spirit Bound?   What are your theories for Spirit Bound? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Aug 31, 2009 9:10 pm

I can't remember, but did they ever actually say that Strigoi lost their heartbeats? I don't think anyone has ever got close enough to find out. We know they lose their souls and the connection to the living, but in some way they're obviously still alive because they can still move around.
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yeah and christian described his parent as almost normal other than their physical appearances
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PostSubject: Re: What are your theories for Spirit Bound?   What are your theories for Spirit Bound? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Aug 31, 2009 9:29 pm

I mean, maybe I just cant's remember anywhere mentioning that Strigoi lose their heartbeats because typically you'd expect something that's "undead" to be animated but without life (and that heartbeats are included in that). But I think the emphasis of 'life' is the loving, magical essence-y part of existance that is missing within Strigoi.
Though Rose picked up on the whole heartbeat thing, I don't think it completely registered with her because she was locked up in a room with Strigoi Dimitri. But at the same time, nothing else was said about it. It was kind of taken to be normal.
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yeah that's true.
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PostSubject: Re: What are your theories for Spirit Bound?   What are your theories for Spirit Bound? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Aug 31, 2009 10:40 pm

I don't think Rose and Dimitri will get back together in this one now that RM is doing 6 VA books. So the possibility of something happening with Adrian is likely.
I'm curious about who will up with Adrian in the end.
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I can't remember exactly where it says that strigoi Demitri has a heartbeat but he has Rose put her hand over his heart and she feels it beating. I'll find the exact quote once I get home. I'm at work right now.
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I know exactly how you feel. I live in NZ too. I sent her a message asking her to add NZ on her spirit bound tour. Hope she decides to come.
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L.Dragomir wrote:
I know exactly how you feel. I live in NZ too. I sent her a message asking her to add NZ on her spirit bound tour. Hope she decides to come.

*fingers crossed* Where abouts in Nz are you? My names Rose. (Well it's my middle name but that's what I use online). Whats yours?
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PostSubject: Re: What are your theories for Spirit Bound?   What are your theories for Spirit Bound? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Sep 07, 2009 12:11 pm

I don't think that if someone with spirit heals Dimitri, that he'll become shadow kissed, because he was never actually "dead" dead, he was just "undead" which isn't alive, but isn't dead, it's somewhere in between. I agree with SM, that I don't think strigoi have lost their souls, like people do when they die, but they've just lost connection to it, and spirit users can heal the soul (connect it again) because spirit is kind of like soul. I think that just getting Dimitri to wear a spirit charmed ring for long enough won't make him turn back, because I don't think the spirit magic would be able to penetrate deep enough. I think Rose would have to stake him again, but with a stake thats charmed with only spirit. Or maybe everything else to, to restore the life to him once his soul has been re-connected, I don't know. Just some wacky theories.

Okay, that was kinda random, and doesn't make much sense, but if anyone can make any sense out of that, let me know what you think.
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In_love_with_Belikov13 wrote:
I don't think that if someone with spirit heals Dimitri, that he'll become shadow kissed, because he was never actually "dead" dead, he was just "undead" which isn't alive, but isn't dead, it's somewhere in between. I agree with SM, that I don't think strigoi have lost their souls, like people do when they die, but they've just lost connection to it, and spirit users can heal the soul (connect it again) because spirit is kind of like soul. I think that just getting Dimitri to wear a spirit charmed ring for long enough won't make him turn back, because I don't think the spirit magic would be able to penetrate deep enough. I think Rose would have to stake him again, but with a stake thats charmed with only spirit. Or maybe everything else to, to restore the life to him once his soul has been re-connected, I don't know. Just some wacky theories.

Okay, that was kinda random, and doesn't make much sense, but if anyone can make any sense out of that, let me know what you think.



Wink I agree with you. But I believe if this Robert guy can be found he may have a few alchemist tricks up his sleeve that could save Dimitri.
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In_love_with_Belikov13 wrote:
I don't think that if someone with spirit heals Dimitri, that he'll become shadow kissed, because he was never actually "dead" dead, he was just "undead" which isn't alive, but isn't dead, it's somewhere in between.
I'm not so sure about that one. Even though he's still slightly alive by needing Spirit to reconnect his soul (the same way dead people would need it to be reconnected) he'd have to form some sort of attachment to the spirit user. Like with those who were completely dead he's lost his soul, the only difference is that the real dead people lost function to every part of their body. That's what I think the whole "dead" thing is for strigoi; not that their hearts have stopped beating and that they're like walking blood-drinking zombies; but they're "dead" because without a soul there is no life.


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I think that just getting Dimitri to wear a spirit charmed ring for long enough won't make him turn back, because I don't think the spirit magic would be able to penetrate deep enough. I think Rose would have to stake him again, but with a stake thats charmed with only spirit. Or maybe everything else to, to restore the life to him once his soul has been re-connected
I too don't think I ring would help him for too long...it might allow him to see sense and move towards being fixed though.
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PostSubject: Re: What are your theories for Spirit Bound?   What are your theories for Spirit Bound? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Sep 07, 2009 7:17 pm

I think that Spirit Bound will be about Rose and Lissa breaking out Vicktor and finding Robert also of course Rose finishing school and I'm guessing a bit of Dimitri I have this feeling he wont play a big role in this book but in the last book he will be a major part ;-)
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PostSubject: Re: What are your theories for Spirit Bound?   What are your theories for Spirit Bound? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Sep 08, 2009 4:19 pm

I'm not sure whether I think Dimka will play a big part or not. She could leave us hanging at the end again, and we don't find out if Dimitri can be saved until the 6th book, or we could see Dimka's fate in Spirit Bound, and then the last book could be about bringing down the Moroi Monarchy, or something else. I'm not sure.

Oh, and SM, now that I've thought about it, I think you're right, that Dimitri will have to be connected to the person who brings him back. Unless Lissa or whoever doesn't use their power on him directly. I think if Rose staked him with a spirit charmed stake, then he wouldn't be connected to any one, because no one would have used their magic on him directly. No one knows for sure, though. We'll just have to wait and see. Viktor's brother would know, though, if he's really brought a strigoi "back to life". If Viktor's brother tells them if Dimka will be shadow-kissed, then they'll know whether to use Lissa's power, or Adrian's, seeing as if Dimka would be shadow kissed, then Lissa wouldn't be allowed to use her powers on him, because it would make her very mentally unstable, like Avery. If he wouldn't be shadow kissed, though, then Lissa could be the one to bring him back. This brings me back to another question that was discussed before blood-promise came out, I believe. What would Dimitri be if he was brought back?? Moroi, or Dhampir? I don't know if he could just go back from being a full-vampire strigoi to being half-vampire again. How could being "healed" or whatever, take that other half of vampire out again?? If he was brought back Moroi, though, it would be good and bad. He couldn't be a guardian anymore, likehe loves doing, but he and Rose could have kids. If she even wants kids, which I don't know if she would. I mean, she's said before that she doesn't want them, but she might when she's older, and if she knows her kids would be properly cared for because Dimitri would always be there, he wouldn't run off like other moroi fathers. Rose could even be Dimitri's guardian! That would be cool, but what about Lissa? I guess Rose's mom could be Lissa's guardian, like she offered in BP. I don't know what to think. There are too many possibilities.
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PostSubject: Re: What are your theories for Spirit Bound?   What are your theories for Spirit Bound? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Sep 08, 2009 4:40 pm

I've had that same thought before. By becoming Strigoi he altered his entire genetic make-up. How do you go back from that?
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PostSubject: Re: What are your theories for Spirit Bound?   What are your theories for Spirit Bound? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Sep 09, 2009 5:14 pm

I found a description of Spirit Bound on Amazon.

Dimitri gave Rose the ultimate choice. But she chose wrong…

After a long and heartbreaking journey to Dimitri’s birthplace in Siberia, Rose Hathaway has finally returned to St. Vladimir’s—and to her best friend, Lissa. It is nearly graduation, and the girls can’t wait for their real lives beyond the Academy’s iron gates to begin. But Rose’s heart still aches for Dimitri, and she knows he’s out there, somewhere.

She failed to kill him when she had the chance. And now her worst fears are about to come true— Dimitri has tasted her blood, and now he is hunting her. Only this time, he won’t rest until Rose joins him…forever


I have no clue how accurate this is, but I put it up just in case. Most of it's pretty obvious though.
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Yeah, I was shown that the other day too. I think it's just an assumption based on the ending of BP. If it was the real thing RM would have put it up on her website by now.
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i personally think if dimitri was saved, by either adrian or lissa, he would have the same result as rose.
she died as a dhampir, and came back as a dhampir.
deep down the strigoi would still have its same old genes, and when spirit infuses them with life they'd be able to work their magic again and make dimitri a dhampir.
but thats just what i think..
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I think Spirit Bound will be about Rose finishing school and working with Lissa and Adrian on how to break Victor out. She will spend a lot of time with Adrian and they will date. She will fall in love with him and then Dimitri will come.

And then the drama will begin Cool
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This may sound totally stupid but let me know what you think!
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You have a point. I bet the queen would care though cause she's a bit**
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she might care a little bit about the safety of Lissa and Adrian but would that really stop her? If she thought there was a way to bring a lot of the strigoi back would she risk 2 people for the 'lives' of a bunch of others?
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I've considered that too, Roselover. And I agree. I'm sure the queen will want to bring the strigoi back, instead of killing them. That would require a spirit user to travel with every guardian. The guardians would still be needed, so that the moroi doesn't get hurt, but then once the guardian had succesfully pinned down the strigoi, then the spirit user could work. This would take a HUGE toll on the shadow kissed people, because the spirit users connected to them would most definitely be using a LOT of energy, and thus creating lots of dark energy. I think the moroi/dhampir world would completely blow to pieces, but I'm sure it would please the queen. OOH! What if Tatiana dies, but before she dies, she names Lissa her successor?? Then Lissa could change everything! The way the guardians are assigned, letting moroi fight with their magic etc. It would be REALLY cool.
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i agree that if the queen tried to make spirit users 'heal' strigoi that the vamp. world would fall apart but still the queen is a little weird. Very Happy

I also agree that it would be totally awesome if Lissa were to become queen and from the past books i almost think that is why Tatiana is making her do all this crazy stuff. I think Lissa would be a good choice for queen, but i don't think she would want to be queen because she seem to like the court life that much. Who knows though anything could happen! I love you
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im sorry i messed that last one up i ment to say that Lissa doesn't seem to like court life that much. sorry!
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