Lissa Dragomir

DhampirLoveInterest wrote:

Maybe.. But makeup can do wonders.. I think she'd be a good one.. And do you think we'll even here from her that much in Blood Promise?

As far as the movies are concerned, they better not make whoever plays her look ugly, or else let all hell break loose, alright?

Something JILL-JILLIAN-JUST JILL said in the Victor thread got me thinking. Everyone keeps saying that Lissa's going to be this act of change, someone to bring about the Revolution and then move onto be queen. Does anyone else think she wouldn't make a good Queen? I think she's perfectly capable of making sound decisions, but I don't think it'd be wise to have a Spirit user as queen; make her too angry and she's likely to use complusion to get them to change their minds. I know she's not the one to use Spirit to get her too far ahead in life, but unless she gets complete control over it, I doubt having her in a high authority position like that would end up with positive results.
Maybe she wouldn't need to be queen if the Revolution also meant getting rid of the Royalty thing and becoming a democracy, but I still reckon she shouldn't be in that position. What do you think?

I believe that Rose would start her journey alone but eventually she might meet Mikhail Tanner and gain some perception on the "journey" since he is basically going through the same thing with Sonya Karp. I don't know what might happen from then on but wait for 55 days again. (wow! i am so freaking lame and nerdy to actually know that! ahh.. who gives a shit.)

I also believe that Lissa should stay behind and practise her powers extensively and have the darkness overwhelm her so Rose can feel it and come back to her to take it away. This would come near the end of the book.

Adrian should also visit her dreams frequently so that she is never alone and doesn't go insane... although she does have the ghosts for company.

Do you think that Dimitri's soul would take a ghost form or is that too far-fetched? I am just throwing around ideas. I don't have any clue however on where Dimitri would be hiding out?

Oh well... I cannot wait! Rose/Dimitri forever!!

xMiss Bat wrote:

Sometimes, I really despise Lissa. When you're reading through the books, Rose has all these problems that she can't address to Lissa, because Lissa's always going on and on about her and Christian. I think, if she wasn't so self absorbed, she would have realized there was something brewing with Dimka and Rose. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love Lissa, but sometimes I can... I don't know. Despise her, like I said. xD; I know its part of the guardians duty to protect their Moroi, but Lissa and Rose were friends first,ya know? Rose goes out of her way to make sure Lissa's safe, the least Lissa could do was put Christian aside for a moment or two and really have a sit down with her best friend. At times, I think its more Rose going out of her way for Lissa, than the other way around.

And you're right, Lissa is extremely needy. And clingy. But thats what makes the story so.. real, I guess. I know a lot of needy clingy egotistical people. xD;

YOu have literally taken the words from my mouth. Thank you.

essa... \
I'm out...

SecretMagic wrote:

Something JILL-JILLIAN-JUST JILL said in the Victor thread got me thinking. Everyone keeps saying that Lissa's going to be this act of change, someone to bring about the Revolution and then move onto be queen. Does anyone else think she wouldn't make a good Queen? I think she's perfectly capable of making sound decisions, but I don't think it'd be wise to have a Spirit user as queen; make her too angry and she's likely to use complusion to get them to change their minds. I know she's not the one to use Spirit to get her too far ahead in life, but unless she gets complete control over it, I doubt having her in a high authority position like that would end up with positive results.
Maybe she wouldn't need to be queen if the Revolution also meant getting rid of the Royalty thing and becoming a democracy, but I still reckon she shouldn't be in that position. What do you think?

Maybe this Revolution that the angel lady's[Lissa, i mean! ] uncle was talking about, was meant to either bring the Strigoi on the endangered species list, or to get the Moroi to be even more endangered than before?

In any case, when will the major strigoi huntings start resuming, guys?

i like that theory and i actually had one alittle bit like that not to long ago

here is mine
she is out trying to find dimitri and since she is out of the wards all the time now and i think at a couple points she will get bombarded with ghosts like at the air port and one of the ghosts will be dimitri's since he has suposedly lost his soul



and btw what is with so many people thinking mason was lying about dimitri being a srigoi he is not that petty he likes rose yes but he would not do that i makes me mad he is agood person sorry ghost

SecretMagic wrote:

Something JILL-JILLIAN-JUST JILL said in the Victor thread got me thinking. Everyone keeps saying that Lissa's going to be this act of change, someone to bring about the Revolution and then move onto be queen. Does anyone else think she wouldn't make a good Queen? I think she's perfectly capable of making sound decisions, but I don't think it'd be wise to have a Spirit user as queen; make her too angry and she's likely to use complusion to get them to change their minds. I know she's not the one to use Spirit to get her too far ahead in life, but unless she gets complete control over it, I doubt having her in a high authority position like that would end up with positive results.
Maybe she wouldn't need to be queen if the Revolution also meant getting rid of the Royalty thing and becoming a democracy, but I still reckon she shouldn't be in that position. What do you think?

I know I'm late, but I also agree that Lissa wouldn't be a good queen. If anyone disagreed with her, she is likely to use compulsion so that they would follow her in what she wants.

Tonystark616 wrote:

In any case, when will the major strigoi huntings start resuming, guys?

I don't think they're ever going to actually head off and hunt strigoi, or at least not for a very long time. Even if the whole Moroi-fighting-with-magic thing got passed it would still be used as a defence: if they're attacked, then they might zap them. I doubt they'll move past that line of thinking in the near future.

Dimitri&Rose wrote:

SecretMagic wrote:

Something JILL-JILLIAN-JUST JILL said in the Victor thread got me thinking. Everyone keeps saying that Lissa's going to be this act of change, someone to bring about the Revolution and then move onto be queen. Does anyone else think she wouldn't make a good Queen? I think she's perfectly capable of making sound decisions, but I don't think it'd be wise to have a Spirit user as queen; make her too angry and she's likely to use complusion to get them to change their minds. I know she's not the one to use Spirit to get her too far ahead in life, but unless she gets complete control over it, I doubt having her in a high authority position like that would end up with positive results.
Maybe she wouldn't need to be queen if the Revolution also meant getting rid of the Royalty thing and becoming a democracy, but I still reckon she shouldn't be in that position. What do you think?

I know I'm late, but I also agree that Lissa wouldn't be a good queen. If anyone disagreed with her, she is likely to use compulsion so that they would follow her in what she wants.

Late doesn't matter I'm just glad someone else thinks the same way. That's not to say she wouldn't have good ideas, just that if she lost her temper regarding a possible bad idea it could be disasterous for the Moroi/Dhampir community.

Now you tell me about their problems in full, S.M!

This is so wrong...the Moroi and Dhampirs should be the ones doing the hunting, not the other way around!!!

They should. But lets face it, even if so many of them were willing to fight they have to be trained before they can go off killing people, and the Strigoi (if they're so into forming giant groups) won't be oblivious to their actions and it's a lot easier to create Strigoi than it is Dhampirs or Moroi. They could potentially have a giantic war with all humans being turned into Strigoi and only a few Dhampirs and Moroi willing to stand up to them. (though a few humans might need to say human for food sources)

SecretMagic wrote:

They should. But lets face it, even if so many of them were willing to fight they have to be trained before they can go off killing people, and the Strigoi (if they're so into forming giant groups) won't be oblivious to their actions and it's a lot easier to create Strigoi than it is Dhampirs or Moroi. They could potentially have a giantic war with all humans being turned into Strigoi and only a few Dhampirs and Moroi willing to stand up to them. (though a few humans might need to say human for food sources)

You mean if the Dhampirs and Moroi don't watch it, S.M?

What do you mean by 'don't watch it'? If they turn a blind eye?
I just mean that if Moroi and Dhampirs are both fighting, the strigoi are likely to notice what they're doing and put up a fight. They have the abilities to create more of themselves a lot quicker than the Moroi and Dhampirs and a lot quicker than our favourite group of people can learn how to defend themselves.
Take Christian for example, he's been working with Tasha for quite a while trying to defend himself with his magic and he's still not up to scratch. The Moroi are not going to be ready to fight a battle against the strigoi no matter how much people like Victor, Tasha and even Lissa push for it. The acceptance by the Moroi government to allow Moroi to fight can only be one step it can't get much further than that too quickly.

SecretMagic wrote:

What do you mean by 'don't watch it'? If they turn a blind eye?
I just mean that if Moroi and Dhampirs are both fighting, the strigoi are likely to notice what they're doing and put up a fight. They have the abilities to create more of themselves a lot quicker than the Moroi and Dhampirs and a lot quicker than our favourite group of people can learn how to defend themselves.
Take Christian for example, he's been working with Tasha for quite a while trying to defend himself with his magic and he's still not up to scratch. The Moroi are not going to be ready to fight a battle against the strigoi no matter how much people like Victor, Tasha and even Lissa push for it. The acceptance by the Moroi government to allow Moroi to fight can only be one step it can't get much further than that too quickly.

Then how many more steps must be walked, before it could be safe for the huntings to resume, S.M?

okay i don't like how every one is aacting like lissa is all me me me i mean reason she went all populat in the first one was to stop all the blood whore coments about rose and as for not noticeing the whole thing wit h dimitri really no one did ecxept for people stalking them
adrian walked upon it on acident and victor guessed because he is a creeper well actually natalie figured it out too but she was also stalking her to get info for her dad
eddie didn't notice it mason didn't motice it

lissa is a good person she isn't self absorbed she just has her own problems to deal with

like say the whole going crazy thing andthen the queen dissing her in front ofevery one or mia being out to get her oh and let's not forget the thing with her "uncle" kid naping her and torturing her when she trusted him

then she has all these royal things she has to deal with


but when she asked rose staay instead of going after dimitri i mean they are best friends they've been together since kindergaten and now she just found out that she was in love with dimitri and now she is going to go aftetr him and just leave


lissa is not a bad person or a bad friend and i think she would make a great queen and she would not use compulsion to get her way if people don't agree wit hher
she souldn't even use it when jesse was torturing her she only uses it for good when it's needed

such as when they need jeremy's car to try toget away from the guardians
or when she used it to get every one to stop talking smack about rose so every one just stop dissing hher

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Late doesn't matter I'm just glad someone else thinks the same way. That's not to say she wouldn't have good ideas, just that if she lost her temper regarding a possible bad idea it could be disasterous for the Moroi/Dhampir community.

Hehe. Okay & yes. I totally agree with you.

And madii, nobody is saying Lissa's acting all "me me me" we're only saying that she would convince people to have the same opinions as her when she uses compulsion if her anger takes over her head.

& I do agree she helped Rose with a lot of stuff.

But it's just that, I don't really see her as a queen because she can be dangerous.
And you know that.
You remember what happened to Jesse.
Her anger took place instead of her goodness.
She can't even control herself, Rose is the one who took control and the hatred she felt inside of her.

Tonystark616 wrote:

SecretMagic wrote:

What do you mean by 'don't watch it'? If they turn a blind eye?
I just mean that if Moroi and Dhampirs are both fighting, the strigoi are likely to notice what they're doing and put up a fight. They have the abilities to create more of themselves a lot quicker than the Moroi and Dhampirs and a lot quicker than our favourite group of people can learn how to defend themselves.
Take Christian for example, he's been working with Tasha for quite a while trying to defend himself with his magic and he's still not up to scratch. The Moroi are not going to be ready to fight a battle against the strigoi no matter how much people like Victor, Tasha and even Lissa push for it. The acceptance by the Moroi government to allow Moroi to fight can only be one step it can't get much further than that too quickly.

Then how many more steps must be walked, before it could be safe for the huntings to resume, S.M?

I don't know how many more steps need to be taken, this is just my opinion.

Yeah, I don't like to think of Lissa as a self-obsessed person. She's definitely not like that. If she was she wouldn't feel the need to help everyone who was hurt with her gift. No-one's denying that she's helped Rose a lot and that in moments of great need her compulsion is amazingly useful. At the same time she has the potential to use it unwisely and sometimes without her noticing. I was re-reading a section in Shadow Kiss the other day where we're told Lissa used compulsion on a teacher to help work with Christian, and she did it without meaning to. She slips up occasionally and no-one can blame her when it comes so naturally to her. But I wouldn't want to be ruled by someone who could force people to do their will, even if it was a mistake.

I think Lissa should stay behind, If word gets out that she is out by herself with Rose protecting her, Strigoi will eat her alive. Everyone possible will try to get to her and if there 20 like before, How Much can one Rose do? Even if they had another 2 people will them, it will be five on 1.

I'm happy that she stayed behind and I hope that she doesn't go and follow Rose. I like Rose but she is leading with her heart and not her head and it will get her killed. I'm sure of it. Lissa needs to be protected by someone who isn't going to bail on her for some man.

Rose left for the better and right now Lissa should focus on her future not the past. When Rose does return, I hope that they don't allow her to guard Lissa, She will be a horrible guard for her.

I believe that Rose will make the best guardian for Lissa because of the bond. Rose will always know when Lissa is in trouble, and where she is. Why do you not think Rose would make a good guardian for Lissa? She left because she had to, and needed to do something for herself for once. Lissa was her life, and Rose was trapped. I think its good for both of them that she left. They needed a little time apart to fully understand how much they needed each other.

Oh, and about the taking Christian thing,

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I think it wouldn't matter that Christian can't go out in the day time, because neither can strigoi. They can handle even less of it than moroi. So if Dimitri was out hunting, it would be at night, so it wouldn't matter if Christian can't go out during the day, because Dimitri wouldn't be out during the day. (I know, I repeated things alot, but I was just trying to make my point)

In_love_with_Belikov13 wrote:

I believe that Rose will make the best guardian for Lissa because of the bond. Rose will always know when Lissa is in trouble, and where she is. Why do you not think Rose would make a good guardian for Lissa? She left because she had to, and needed to do something for herself for once. Lissa was her life, and Rose was trapped. I think its good for both of them that she left. They needed a little time apart to fully understand how much they needed each other.

Oh, and about the taking Christian thing,

I think it wouldn't matter that Christian can't go out in the day time, because neither than strigoi. They can handle even less of it than moroi. So if Dimitri was out hunting, it would be at night, so it wouldn't matter if Christian can't go out during the day, because Dimitri wouldn't be out during the day. (I know, I repeated things alot, but I was just trying to make my point)

I think Rose would make a good guardian if she wasn't so hooked on Dimitri. She went and left Lissa to go and save him, there no telling what will happen with Dimitri in the future. Will Rose go and leave Lissa every time to go and save him?

I thought Rose was a great gaurdian in the begining but as time went along I think she begin to put attention on things they didn't and shouldn't matter. I understand the natural feeling she had for Dimitri but she got caught up with them and sometimes that can be a deadly thing. That was the thing, she didn't need to do it. Rose was stupid and acted like the foolish girl she is. She might be good but Rose isn't the best and she is abonding a Dhampir and the last one of the Dragomir Family to go and save a man who might not even be alive or could possibly kill her or get her killed?

I'm sorry but I don't think it was smart of her to do that. Rose clearly might be walking into a trap and she doesn't care who it might hurt in the future. That's why she won't make a good gaurdian right now because she doesn't learn when to let go and protect the people who need protecting. She didn't even rationalize her decision, she just went with it and though it might work in a battle it won't work all the time.

Yeah it might have been good for them itf Rose was taking a Vacation somewhere , I don't safe but she's going to risk her life. I just can't shake the feeing of her walking into some type of trap that might get her or Lissa killed.

Think here for a second, What do you think the Strigoi will do once the figure out Lissa is without her almighty gaurdian Rose and they have captured one fo the best Gaurdians Dimitri? Call you say ATTACK!

Don't read if you don't want a spoiled story from BP.

Spoiler:

Lissa's an Angel Princess...it makes sense for her to be able to do this.

lissa amazing she has the best skill ever (spirt) and she has christian who is also awsome

*Brushes Lissa's Angel Hair, in that instant! *

Tonystark616 wrote:

*Brushes Lissa's Angel Hair, in that instant! *

I am Team Lissa.

Yeah...I think we can tell, Tony.

I really like Lissa. She's a nicely developed character which already makes her a favorite of mine. =D