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PostSubject: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeFri Sep 10, 2010 1:41 pm

I can't remember if this was his name or not. He was that one strigoi that Rose ran into during the school fight.
Does anyone remember how the book described him?
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeFri Sep 10, 2010 3:01 pm

Didn't he have blond hair?

He's the strigoi that awakened Dimitri in the cave as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 11, 2010 1:03 am

So do we think there will be more to his story? In Shadow Kiss when Nathan bit Dimitri and looked to Rose for her reaction I got the impression that he was no random strigoi. I had expected it to be revealed in Blood Promise that he had some kind of connection to Dimitri, Rose, or someone else they knew and was surprised when no such revelation was presented in the book. Does anyone think we might learn more about Nathan in Last Sacrifice?
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 11, 2010 6:33 am

extraordinarygirl86 wrote:
So do we think there will be more to his story? In Shadow Kiss when Nathan bit Dimitri and looked to Rose for her reaction I got the impression that he was no random strigoi. I had expected it to be revealed in Blood Promise that he had some kind of connection to Dimitri, Rose, or someone else they knew and was surprised when no such revelation was presented in the book. Does anyone think we might learn more about Nathan in Last Sacrifice?
I definitely believe so. Including the fact that Rose claimed he looked familiar but couldn't figure out who he was.
I was trying to remember the description because the little it had of him sort of gave me the impression he possibly could be Lissa's half sibling.
Does anyone else have this theory? If not, I need to find a way to get it out of my head. xD
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 11, 2010 7:05 am

I never thought that there could be something more to him. I think RM will keep this to herself until LS, possibly. I hope we get to know a lot more about some of the characters we've met, but not much description.
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeMon Sep 13, 2010 12:58 am

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extraordinarygirl86 wrote:
So do we think there will be more to his story? In Shadow Kiss when Nathan bit Dimitri and looked to Rose for her reaction I got the impression that he was no random strigoi. I had expected it to be revealed in Blood Promise that he had some kind of connection to Dimitri, Rose, or someone else they knew and was surprised when no such revelation was presented in the book. Does anyone think we might learn more about Nathan in Last Sacrifice?
I definitely believe so. Including the fact that Rose claimed he looked familiar but couldn't figure out who he was.
I was trying to remember the description because the little it had of him sort of gave me the impression he possibly could be Lissa's half sibling.
Does anyone else have this theory? If not, I need to find a way to get it out of my head. xD

I was thinking that too. Everyone keeps suggesting Jill as Lissa's half-sibling but I think she's too obvious of a guess. It really felt to me like Richelle was hinting at there being more to Nathan, so I'm really hoping he will turn out to be Lissa's sibling. I think Lissa being related to someone that turned strigoi is far more interesting than being related to another student at the academy.
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeMon Sep 13, 2010 12:59 pm

I was so sure with Jill, but now, we have so many options. I think Nathan will play a vital role, maybe, in LS. I'm not really sure where i'm going with this, but he HAd to be in SK for some reason, except for 'awakening' Dimitri. There has to be something else to it, other wise, having him there as a character will be pointless. Any thoughts to add to this?
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeMon Sep 13, 2010 1:55 pm

I suggested this theory on the official VA movie page on facebook and everyeone acted like I was crazy. They're so sure it's Jill which is why I don't think it's her. I doubt Richelle would make the most obvious person Lissa's half-sibling. It feels to me like she's purposely trying to steer us in that direction so she can slap us with a suprise by making it someone nobody ever considered.
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeMon Sep 13, 2010 2:04 pm

I have that exact thought about Tasha being the killer! I think people are getting way ahead of themselves, thinking it was Tasha cos RM didn't mention her in the last bits of SB.
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeWed Sep 15, 2010 7:48 am

I don't believe Lissa's half sibling will be Jill either. As for Nathan, I am really hoping it's him.
And finding out that he is will no doubt be far more interesting, as you said.
Plus, being that Lissa is able to revive him will be more of a story than with Jill, who is quite simple to find and all.
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeWed Sep 15, 2010 10:04 pm

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I don't believe Lissa's half sibling will be Jill either. As for Nathan, I am really hoping it's him.
And finding out that he is will no doubt be far more interesting, as you said.
Plus, being that Lissa is able to revive him will be more of a story than with Jill, who is quite simple to find and all.

Didn't Nathan die in Blood Promise? I thought Dimitri killed him and the others. How could he be brought back?
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeThu Sep 16, 2010 12:56 am

Maybe Nathan didn't really die. We were only told by Dimitri that he killed Nathan, we never actually got to see it for ourselves.
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeMon Sep 20, 2010 10:25 am

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Sincerity wrote:
I don't believe Lissa's half sibling will be Jill either. As for Nathan, I am really hoping it's him.
And finding out that he is will no doubt be far more interesting, as you said.
Plus, being that Lissa is able to revive him will be more of a story than with Jill, who is quite simple to find and all.

Didn't Nathan die in Blood Promise? I thought Dimitri killed him and the others. How could he be brought back?
Did he? Shocked
I'm going to have to re-read the book because from what I remember I thought he got away.
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeMon Sep 20, 2010 2:59 pm

Sincerity wrote:
hungrycookiemonster wrote:
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I don't believe Lissa's half sibling will be Jill either. As for Nathan, I am really hoping it's him.
And finding out that he is will no doubt be far more interesting, as you said.
Plus, being that Lissa is able to revive him will be more of a story than with Jill, who is quite simple to find and all.

Didn't Nathan die in Blood Promise? I thought Dimitri killed him and the others. How could he be brought back?
Did he? Shocked
I'm going to have to re-read the book because from what I remember I thought he got away.

Dimitri told Rose that he killed them all. As we all know though, Rose thought she had killed Dimitri but she turned out to be wrong. So it's entirely possible that Richelle will surprise us in LS by revealing Nathan is not really dead. But even if Dimitri really did succeed in killing Nathan in BP that doesn't mean he can't still be Lissa's half-sibling. Most people are going on the assumption that Lissa's sibling is alive even though it was never said in SB that Lissa's sibling is currently living.
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeThu Sep 23, 2010 3:17 pm

Hmm. Good point.
But in order for Lissa to be queen, there has to be another living Dragomir. So what I'm thinking is that they'll most likely be alive.
Not saying that Lissa will for sure be queen but I don't think Richelle would mention it in the book if the half-sibling was dead.
It would kind of make it more depressing for Lissa's sake.

I personally want to learn more about Nathan though.
I think he was in it for more of a purpose than to just awaken Dimitri and be killed in the end.
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeThu Sep 23, 2010 6:54 pm

Sincerity wrote:
Hmm. Good point.
But in order for Lissa to be queen, there has to be another living Dragomir. So what I'm thinking is that they'll most likely be alive.
Not saying that Lissa will for sure be queen but I don't think Richelle would mention it in the book if the half-sibling was dead.
It would kind of make it more depressing for Lissa's sake.

I personally want to learn more about Nathan though.
I think he was in it for more of a purpose than to just awaken Dimitri and be killed in the end.

I agree. I don't think Lissa's sibling is dead either. That's why I'm really pushing for this theory that Nathan isn't really dead. Richelle was definitely hinting about there being more to Nathan's story in SK and BP, so that's why I think he may be Lissa's sibling. I really want it to be Nathan because the last Dragomir being related to a strigoi is far more interesting than her just being related to another VA student. And if it's Nathan that could mean he'll also be in the spin-off series. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeMon Oct 11, 2010 6:51 pm

I think there is something up with the whole Nathan thing also. I thought Dimitri had killed him in Blood Promise but i dont know maybe he didn't.

But i was also kind of wondering why Richelle would have named two charactors Nathan cause Adrians fathers name is Nathan and the strigoi who changed Dimitri name was Nathan.

Just thinking about it i guess. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeMon Oct 11, 2010 6:55 pm

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I think there is something up with the whole Nathan thing also. I thought Dimitri had killed him in Blood Promise but i dont know maybe he didn't.

But i was also kind of wondering why Richelle would have named two charactors Nathan cause Adrians fathers name is Nathan and the strigoi who changed Dimitri name was Nathan.

Just thinking about it i guess. Smile

I've also been wondering why Richelle gave two characters the same name. She's not really the type of author to recycle names in the same series. Maybe giving Adrian's father the same name is a hint that strigoi Nathan is not out of the picture.


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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeMon Oct 11, 2010 7:42 pm

I know cause there is like a million names in the world so she could have chose a different name. Now my like really curious.

Gosh I cant wait till Last Sacrifice.. Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeThu Oct 14, 2010 9:48 pm

Okay this one thing has bothered me since last year when I read Blood Promise. Dimitri claims he left for Siberia to get away from Rose, and sought out Galina because he knew her before she had turned. Implying it was HIS decision to go to Galina. So why is Nathan hanging around? He's not even Russian, he went to st. vlad's, so probably didn't even know Galina. And Nathan also implies to Rose that he was there before Dimitri was. when he was trying to kil her an get info on lissa, he said killing rose would destroy Dimitri and show Galina how unhinged he was, allowing NATHAN to return to his ORIGINAL place by her side. So wtf? Ridiculous plot hole, or something else?
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PostSubject: Re: Nathan...?   Nathan...? Icon_minitimeFri Oct 15, 2010 10:21 pm

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I have that exact thought about Tasha being the killer! I think people are getting way ahead of themselves, thinking it was Tasha cos RM didn't mention her in the last bits of SB.

The Tasha theory only seems to be big on this board. I've suggested the theory in other VA discussions on a couple different sites and nobody seems to go for the idea. I think more people believe Daniella is the killer.
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