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Ivashkov Admin
Posts : 2412 Join date : 2009-06-12 Location : Hanging out with Mr. Ivashkov
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:29 pm | |
| I expect mine to get here tomorrow | |
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rozaluvsdimka4eva
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2009-10-08 Age : 30 Location : Virginie
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:52 pm | |
| lucky post nothing about the chapter plz i want to be suprised | |
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PrettyLittleLiar
Posts : 71 Join date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:45 pm | |
| That's not fair, not everyone wants Dimitri to be saved.
One choice up there should be no one because that's what I choose.
Dimitri should get killed or remain the way he is now. | |
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dimkaluv
Posts : 2344 Join date : 2009-01-22 Location : Serenity, The 'Verse
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:56 pm | |
| - PrettyLittleLiar wrote:
- That's not fair, not everyone wants Dimitri to be saved.
One choice up there should be no one because that's what I choose.
Dimitri should get killed or remain the way he is now. Just, no. - Ivashkov wrote:
- I expect mine to get here tomorrow
So, did it ever show up? Mine will probably ship out on the 25th. Can't wait. | |
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rozaluvsdimka4eva
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2009-10-08 Age : 30 Location : Virginie
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:26 pm | |
| ppl wat is up with you are you a lissa, adrian, christain, or eddie fan?? is that why your diissin our books?? Ashley back me up here | |
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PrettyLittleLiar
Posts : 71 Join date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:39 pm | |
| - rozaluvsdimka4eva wrote:
- ppl wat is up with you are you a lissa, adrian, christain, or eddie fan?? is that why your diissin our books?? Ashley back me up here
I guess this is aimed at me. I'm an Adrian Fan! I think he is a playboy with a big heart and just needs to right girl to open it up for him. I also like Lissa, she seems to be a good girl but has a bad side that might just kill her one day. Especially since she has someone unstable like Rose "backing her". The chick could leave in a split second to find Dimitri, where the hell is the loyalty in that? | |
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dimkaluv
Posts : 2344 Join date : 2009-01-22 Location : Serenity, The 'Verse
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:57 pm | |
| - PrettyLittleLiar wrote:
- Especially since she has someone unstable like Rose "backing her". The chick could leave in a split second to find Dimitri, where the hell is the loyalty in that?
Rose doesn't up and leave without reason. Rose has spent her ENTIRE life backing Lissa, and putting everyone else's needs before her own. She's even giving up her life to continue protecting Lissa, basically having no freedom at all. This is the way she thinks things *have* to be, because the alternative in their world is the despicable choice. A dhampir just doesn't go off and do whatever they want. Rose has been taught that dhampirs protect Moroi. It's a way of giving back because the Moroi can't survive without the dhampirs' protection, and dhampirs can't exist without Moroi. Rose leaves because she needs to. She leaves because she's putting herself first for once. It's one of the most important things in Shadow Kiss!!! It's noble and all that Rose and the other dhampirs put their duty to Moroi before themselves, but sometimes you need to think about yourself too. You have to do what's right for you, whatever it may be. Everything Rose has learned about her way of life is being challenged. But she finds that there are always choices. | |
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rozaluvsdimka4eva
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2009-10-08 Age : 30 Location : Virginie
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:10 pm | |
| yeah i agree with ashley here just say you love adrian and dont diss other peoples comments your right we all have opinions and yours are kinda negative and im not meaning to yell or be a bitch to you but im very dimka roza i love adrian too but i dont diss him and want him to die just cool it with the death threts | |
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PrettyLittleLiar
Posts : 71 Join date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:01 am | |
| - rozaluvsdimka4eva wrote:
- yeah i agree with ashley here just say you love adrian and dont diss other peoples comments your right we all have opinions and yours are kinda negative and im not meaning to yell or be a bitch to you but im very dimka roza i love adrian too but i dont diss him and want him to die just cool it with the death threts
Diss Adrian if you like. I'm not going to get mad because everyone doesn't feel the way I feel about him. It's all good if you hate him, I hate Dimitri and Rose together. Rose by herself isn't too bad but her loyalty lies in the wrong places. | |
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PrettyLittleLiar
Posts : 71 Join date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:15 am | |
| - dimkaluv wrote:
- PrettyLittleLiar wrote:
- Especially since she has someone unstable like Rose "backing her". The chick could leave in a split second to find Dimitri, where the hell is the loyalty in that?
Rose doesn't up and leave without reason. Rose has spent her ENTIRE life backing Lissa, and putting everyone else's needs before her own. She's even giving up her life to continue protecting Lissa, basically having no freedom at all. This is the way she thinks things *have* to be, because the alternative in their world is the despicable choice. A dhampir just doesn't go off and do whatever they want. Rose has been taught that dhampirs protect Moroi. It's a way of giving back because the Moroi can't survive without the dhampirs' protection, and dhampirs can't exist without Moroi.
Rose leaves because she needs to. She leaves because she's putting herself first for once. It's one of the most important things in Shadow Kiss!!! It's noble and all that Rose and the other dhampirs put their duty to Moroi before themselves, but sometimes you need to think about yourself too. You have to do what's right for you, whatever it may be. Everything Rose has learned about her way of life is being challenged. But she finds that there are always choices. She doesn't? Her entire life? Rose is a teenager, she isn't a 50 year old woman protecting the same person for over 30 years. She is suppose to be Lissas' best friend and if your role in society is to protect, it should be an honor. Lissa isn't some damn stranger, they were best friends! I would protect my best friend for the rest of my life if need be. Your right Rose was taught that but the minute she got a chance to go and save someone that can't be saved, she left. Dropping everything she knew and learned at the door, hell even wanting to put Lissa's life at stake to go and save a man who is literally to far gone. It has nothing to do with putting yourself first. If you were a bodyguard for the president and your husband fled to Russia , you just can't wake up one morning leaving the President saying "hey, i'm going on a impossible mission to save someone, who I don't know is or even wants to be saved. See ya!" No!! It doesn't work like that. You can talk till your blue in the face, I won't ever side or even attempt to understand Rose and her selfish choices. It's suppose to be Chicks before D***s, not the other way around | |
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rozaluvsdimka4eva
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2009-10-08 Age : 30 Location : Virginie
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:51 pm | |
| ok then but Rose did have her reasons but its ok i understand where your coming from I had no choice to leave the man i loved but im going back to him when im 18 ill leave my family with a lie then break the truth of a lie later in life but she loved him and if she didnt leave we wouldnt have another stroy or stories just remember everyone does stuff for different reasons but Rose is not selfish she came back didnt she? | |
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dimkaluv
Posts : 2344 Join date : 2009-01-22 Location : Serenity, The 'Verse
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:57 pm | |
| - PrettyLittleLiar wrote:
- She doesn't?
Her entire life? Rose is a teenager, she isn't a 50 year old woman protecting the same person for over 30 years. She is suppose to be Lissas' best friend and if your role in society is to protect, it should be an honor. Lissa isn't some damn stranger, they were best friends! I would protect my best friend for the rest of my life if need be.
Your right Rose was taught that but the minute she got a chance to go and save someone that can't be saved, she left. Dropping everything she knew and learned at the door, hell even wanting to put Lissa's life at stake to go and save a man who is literally to far gone.
It has nothing to do with putting yourself first. If you were a bodyguard for the president and your husband fled to Russia , you just can't wake up one morning leaving the President saying "hey, i'm going on a impossible mission to save someone, who I don't know is or even wants to be saved. See ya!"
No!! It doesn't work like that.
You can talk till your blue in the face, I won't ever side or even attempt to understand Rose and her selfish choices.
It's suppose to be Chicks before D***s, not the other way around Rose made her decisions. I get you don't agree with them. Whatever. And the fact that you've said that you won't even attempt to understand just proves to me that you couldn't possibly understand RM's character either. And yes, I do think it was about putting herself first for once. Rose has spent 18 years (her entire life) believing one thing when it turns out, LIFE is completely different!! And it isn't that she doesn't want to protect Lissa. She does, more than anything. But she felt she needed to do this for Dimitri because she cared about him. She left because she wanted what she knew he would have wanted. It was her way of letting go, because it's really freaking hard to forget someone when you know they're not actually gone (I've felt this personally). Rose was putting herself aside because she knew that she would have to go after him and kill him in order to finally be free of him. She knew she wouldn't have made the best guardian to protect Lissa unless she went and did this for herself because she never would have been able to move on otherwise. | |
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rozaluvsdimka4eva
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2009-10-08 Age : 30 Location : Virginie
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:14 pm | |
| thank you ashley (right??) god you have said wat ive been trying to tell her all along and you have? me too just this past june but were getting married in a few years | |
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Peace love n VA
Posts : 2298 Join date : 2009-09-28 Age : 36 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:27 pm | |
| I didn't like the fact Rose left on her mission to find Dimitri. But, I understood. I was actually more upset at Lissa. Rose's best friend is Lissa. But is Lissa's best friend really Rose? Or is she really just that selfish? If my best friend lost the person she loves, weather fully or not, and wanted to go on a crazy suicide mission after him, i would say one thing" when do WE leave". It's not about being irresponsible or stupid- because it is both things- it's about doing what you need to do to be happy. To mourn. To grieve. To come to terms with everything. To find your way back to happiness. Granted Rose didn't tell Lissa about her feelings from the start- but she did figure it out in the end. Once you know your friend has those feelings. i just dont understand how you could be so indifferent to them. Rose and Lissa left VA for TWO years for Lissa's safety. That's not only Lissa's career affected , Rose almost blew her chance of being guardian as well in doing that . But Rose took the chance to protect her friend. Now, Rose is the one that needs to get away for her sanity, and Lissa should have been by her friends side helping her. Rose was the who need protecting for the change. | |
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rozaluvsdimka4eva
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2009-10-08 Age : 30 Location : Virginie
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:32 pm | |
| Amen!!! thank you god i cant believe it took you a whole speech but now youve got it across. Hmm i wonder wat dimitri will be like in spirit bound??? *ponders this contiusly.* hey you know i cant see you pic right what is it | |
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dimkaluv
Posts : 2344 Join date : 2009-01-22 Location : Serenity, The 'Verse
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:36 pm | |
| - Peace love n VA wrote:
- I didn't like the fact Rose left on her mission to find Dimitri. But, I understood. I was actually more upset at Lissa. Rose's best friend is Lissa. But is Lissa's best friend really Rose? Or is she really just that selfish? If my best friend lost the person she loves, weather fully or not, and wanted to go on a crazy suicide mission after him, i would say one thing" when do WE leave". It's not about being irresponsible or stupid- because it is both things- it's about doing what you need to do to be happy. To mourn. To grieve. To come to terms with everything. To find your way back to happiness. Granted Rose didn't tell Lissa about her feelings from the start- but she did figure it out in the end. Once you know your friend has those feelings. i just dont understand how you could be so indifferent to them. Rose and Lissa left VA for TWO years for Lissa's safety. That's not only Lissa's career affected , Rose almost blew her chance of being guardian as well in doing that . But Rose took the chance to protect her friend. Now, Rose is the one that needs to get away for her sanity, and Lissa should have been by her friends side helping her. Rose was the who need protecting for the change.
I completely agree with you. Lissa was the selfish one. Rose does just everything she possibly can for Lissa, and the one time she needed Lissa to be there for her, she was nowhere to be found. Rose was not in a good place at the end of Shadow Kiss, and Lissa couldn't be bothered to help or console or anything. Instead, Lissa acted like a victim and made Rose feel even worse because she then had to choose between the two people that mattered most to her. | |
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rozaluvsdimka4eva
Posts : 3758 Join date : 2009-10-08 Age : 30 Location : Virginie
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:40 pm | |
| i agree both of you are right and Lissa was a selfish twit now that Rose knows spirit can heal a strigoi is Lissa going to charm something to help heal him in case robert is to old to wield the magic?? | |
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dimkaluv
Posts : 2344 Join date : 2009-01-22 Location : Serenity, The 'Verse
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:52 pm | |
| - rozaluvsdimka4eva wrote:
- i agree both of you are right and Lissa was a selfish twit now that Rose knows spirit can heal a strigoi is Lissa going to charm something to help heal him in case robert is to old to wield the magic??
She'd better. Lissa infuriates me. She's so selfish and weak and takes Rose for granted. I was hoping she'd grow up in Blood Promise, but she really didn't change much at all. Instead she managed to drive away someone that truly loves her, and it was not all Avery's fault that it happened either. She takes Christian for granted as well. | |
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Peace love n VA
Posts : 2298 Join date : 2009-09-28 Age : 36 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:56 pm | |
| - rozaluvsdimka4eva wrote:
hey you know i cant see you pic right what is it I don't have a pic up there i left it blank lol the main reason i'm so mad at Lissa is she tried to use compel Rose into staying. You just dont do that to your best friend. | |
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dimkaluv
Posts : 2344 Join date : 2009-01-22 Location : Serenity, The 'Verse
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:59 pm | |
| - Peace love n VA wrote:
- the main reason i'm so mad at Lissa is she tried to use compel Rose into staying. You just dont do that to your best friend.
Exactly!! Lissa is selfish!! Again, I hoped she would grow the hell up in Blood Promise, but it didn't exactly happen. | |
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PrettyLittleLiar
Posts : 71 Join date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:04 pm | |
| - dimkaluv wrote:
- PrettyLittleLiar wrote:
- She doesn't?
Her entire life? Rose is a teenager, she isn't a 50 year old woman protecting the same person for over 30 years. She is suppose to be Lissas' best friend and if your role in society is to protect, it should be an honor. Lissa isn't some damn stranger, they were best friends! I would protect my best friend for the rest of my life if need be.
Your right Rose was taught that but the minute she got a chance to go and save someone that can't be saved, she left. Dropping everything she knew and learned at the door, hell even wanting to put Lissa's life at stake to go and save a man who is literally to far gone.
It has nothing to do with putting yourself first. If you were a bodyguard for the president and your husband fled to Russia , you just can't wake up one morning leaving the President saying "hey, i'm going on a impossible mission to save someone, who I don't know is or even wants to be saved. See ya!"
No!! It doesn't work like that.
You can talk till your blue in the face, I won't ever side or even attempt to understand Rose and her selfish choices.
It's suppose to be Chicks before D***s, not the other way around Rose made her decisions. I get you don't agree with them. Whatever. And the fact that you've said that you won't even attempt to understand just proves to me that you couldn't possibly understand RM's character either.
And yes, I do think it was about putting herself first for once. Rose has spent 18 years (her entire life) believing one thing when it turns out, LIFE is completely different!! And it isn't that she doesn't want to protect Lissa. She does, more than anything. But she felt she needed to do this for Dimitri because she cared about him. She left because she wanted what she knew he would have wanted. It was her way of letting go, because it's really freaking hard to forget someone when you know they're not actually gone (I've felt this personally). Rose was putting herself aside because she knew that she would have to go after him and kill him in order to finally be free of him. She knew she wouldn't have made the best guardian to protect Lissa unless she went and did this for herself because she never would have been able to move on otherwise. I won't attempt to understand because there is no reason for Rose to act the way she does. Talk to your blue in the fact sweetie, my opinion of that soon to be blood whore doesn't change. Okay, than Rose should leave. Don't return, go and die off somewhere if she feels that way. Honestly don't act like your down for the cause than leave when things don't go your way. That's bullshit, Rose left not thinking with her mind but simply with her foolish heart. She FAILED! She went on this mission, but lives in danger just to FAIL! Rose did not accomplish anything, she left a trail of bodies and people's lives at risk to FAIL!!! Maybe just maybe, if Rose was successful in her mission, I might have a change of heart but she didn't and now Dimitri is bringing his blood thirsty ass to the states to get her and possibly kill her. Yeah way to go Rose!!! | |
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dimkaluv
Posts : 2344 Join date : 2009-01-22 Location : Serenity, The 'Verse
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:06 pm | |
| - PrettyLittleLiar wrote:
- I won't attempt to understand because there is no reason for Rose to act the way she does. Talk to your blue in the fact sweetie, my opinion of that soon to be blood whore doesn't change.
Okay, than Rose should leave. Don't return, go and die off somewhere if she feels that way. Honestly don't act like your down for the cause than leave when things don't go your way.
That's bullshit, Rose left not thinking with her mind but simply with her foolish heart. She FAILED! She went on this mission, but lives in danger just to FAIL! Rose did not accomplish anything, she left a trail of bodies and people's lives at risk to FAIL!!!
Maybe just maybe, if Rose was successful in her mission, I might have a change of heart but she didn't and now Dimitri is bringing his blood thirsty ass to the states to get her and possibly kill her.
Yeah way to go Rose!!! Again, why do you read these books? You obviously don't like much about them? | |
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PrettyLittleLiar
Posts : 71 Join date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:10 pm | |
| - Peace love n VA wrote:
- I didn't like the fact Rose left on her mission to find Dimitri. But, I understood. I was actually more upset at Lissa. Rose's best friend is Lissa. But is Lissa's best friend really Rose? Or is she really just that selfish? If my best friend lost the person she loves, weather fully or not, and wanted to go on a crazy suicide mission after him, i would say one thing" when do WE leave". It's not about being irresponsible or stupid- because it is both things- it's about doing what you need to do to be happy. To mourn. To grieve. To come to terms with everything. To find your way back to happiness. Granted Rose didn't tell Lissa about her feelings from the start- but she did figure it out in the end. Once you know your friend has those feelings. i just dont understand how you could be so indifferent to them. Rose and Lissa left VA for TWO years for Lissa's safety. That's not only Lissa's career affected , Rose almost blew her chance of being guardian as well in doing that . But Rose took the chance to protect her friend. Now, Rose is the one that needs to get away for her sanity, and Lissa should have been by her friends side helping her. Rose was the who need protecting for the change.
If you were the last of your blood line, would you really walk into the enemies territory with an emotionally unstable girl? Be real here, I wouldn't trust Rose with my life simply because her heart is conflicted. The fact that she is willing to go on this mission shows she doesn't care about me. What if it came down to Dimitri and Lissa in a battle. Would Rose allow Lissa to get killed just to save and convert Dimitri? YES SHE WOULD! So I'm not mad at Lissa for thinking about her life. They did leave and though it was unsafe, Rose had her full attention on guarding Lissa. She wasn't worrying about some boy. But now they are chasing the enemy, why would you do that? Last time they were just hiding out, they weren't out at night looking for Strigoi. This time around they would be. | |
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PrettyLittleLiar
Posts : 71 Join date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:12 pm | |
| - dimkaluv wrote:
- PrettyLittleLiar wrote:
- I won't attempt to understand because there is no reason for Rose to act the way she does. Talk to your blue in the fact sweetie, my opinion of that soon to be blood whore doesn't change.
Okay, than Rose should leave. Don't return, go and die off somewhere if she feels that way. Honestly don't act like your down for the cause than leave when things don't go your way.
That's bullshit, Rose left not thinking with her mind but simply with her foolish heart. She FAILED! She went on this mission, but lives in danger just to FAIL! Rose did not accomplish anything, she left a trail of bodies and people's lives at risk to FAIL!!!
Maybe just maybe, if Rose was successful in her mission, I might have a change of heart but she didn't and now Dimitri is bringing his blood thirsty ass to the states to get her and possibly kill her.
Yeah way to go Rose!!! Again, why do you read these books? You obviously don't like much about them?
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PrettyLittleLiar
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| Subject: Re: What The Hell Is Up With Dimitri's Additude In BP?! Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:13 pm | |
| - rozaluvsdimka4eva wrote:
- i agree both of you are right and Lissa was a selfish twit now that Rose knows spirit can heal a strigoi is Lissa going to charm something to help heal him in case robert is to old to wield the magic??
Where did it say that Lissa can cure Strigoi? or that anyone could? | |
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