Avery evil royal

She was wierd from the start

Any thoughts on:
How neither lissa or adrian saw her golden aura

How she was so strong in compulsion

and any others i can't think of at this moment

I know she was so strong, so I can't really blame Lissa and Adrian for not seeing her aura too well, but it seems a bit ridiculous that neither of them picked up on it.
Lissa even looked at Avery's aura at the beginning and there was gold in it. No-one but a Spirit user has gold in their aura.

I've been wondering though, whether he father (and I can't remember his name: Mr.Lazar I guess) was a part of it all? I guess he could have been under the influence of compulsion too, so that would explain why he brought Avery with him to the Academy, but if he was so innocent why did he flee?

I didn't like avery from the start i kinda figured she was a spirit user from when rose started to get kicked out of lissa's head...and her with adrain seemed like he was to much into rose to be with avery..

i didn't like her too. especially when Adrian always hang out with her
but at least, her appreance make Rose little bit jealous ;D

something about Avery creeped me out from the start. But i can honestly say i didnt suspect she was spirit users at all. BUt in hindsight i guess hints were dropped but still i dont blame Lissa and Adrian not picking up on it either. After all, spirit is supposed to be rare and what reasons did they really have to suspect she would lie about being an air user. Plus 95% of the time they were drinking which hinders their abilities.

I think she was so powerful because she bonded to two people. SHE didnt suffer from the spirit side affects like Lissa and Adrian do. Granted Lissa and Rose share the effects.. but as Lissa gained control of her power- Rose took on most if not all of the bad effects. I think Avery was just getting more powerful and powerful while her bond-mates were getting more and more crazy. Plus, i think she was so good at compulsion because she practiced and used it often. Lissa does occasionally but when she HAS too.. i don't think Adrian even uses it much at all.

I agree on most parts except where Lissa's not as powerful in compulsion. She did that crazy psycho-super complusion on Jesse without breaking a sweat...her only trouble was letting go. Perhaps that's doesn't prove her strength, is she can't control it that way, but if Avery was as strong or stronger she would have been able to make Lissa jump even with Rose trying to stop her.

With her specialty Avery could be a compulsion specialist whereas Lissa's more focused on healing.

L.Dragomir wrote:

With her specialty Avery could be a compulsion specialist whereas Lissa's more focused on healing.

I don't know, maybe. To me it seems they've all got a fair bit of complusion power AND something else. Avery also had the ability to see into Lissa's mind and knock Rose out of it.
I'm still pretty convinced that Lissa has some super strong complusion abilities. I reckon, Avery managed to notice her special compulsion skills earlier and had time to work with them for longer. At least for the moment, that's what I'm going with.

I agree.

Not sure if this was said in this thread or another one but it seems Spirit manifests differently in each spirit users.

I think they all can do the basics and have really strong abilities in that but are especially gifted in one aspect. I think Lissa's specialty is Healing. Adrian is dream walking. Ah i can't remember how to spell her name the lady married to Mark... i think her's is mind reading. And Avery's was compulsion. They all can be really power in all but they have that one ability that just exceeds the others.

i liked avery she was like a more un-controled roza with a bad attude...
and of course if avery would have self-control she would have been cool

yeah i guess but i wish she wouldnt have been evil.

well roza can be pretty evil lol if ya know wat i mean-wiggles eyebrows-
but lol anywho avery was just drunk on her on powers...
it could even happen to lissa..
adrain seems like he could get that way as well...

>i<roza&dimka>i< wrote:

well roza can be pretty evil lol if ya know wat i mean-wiggles eyebrows-
but lol anywho avery was just drunk on her on powers...
it could even happen to lissa..
adrain seems like he could get that way as well...

lol true
oh boy adrian.

I actually don't think Adrian could get that way. I agree that Lissa could, but Adrian doesn't have the same desire to learn more talents/explore as much as Lissa. He wants to know the full extent of his powers, but he's sort of content to let them come to him. I mean, I know in Shadow Kiss he was really determined to learn to heal, but Lissa was going half crazy at not being able to learn. Adrian was calmer about it all, so I don't think he'd ever be controlled by spirit the way Lissa and Avery are sometimes.

SecretMagic wrote:

I actually don't think Adrian could get that way. I agree that Lissa could, but Adrian doesn't have the same desire to learn more talents/explore as much as Lissa. He wants to know the full extent of his powers, but he's sort of content to let them come to him. I mean, I know in Shadow Kiss he was really determined to learn to heal, but Lissa was going half crazy at not being able to learn. Adrian was calmer about it all, so I don't think he'd ever be controlled by spirit the way Lissa and Avery are sometimes.

Kim, ur ideas are starting to plague my dreams. Last night I had this super weird dream about Lissa going extreme power crazy ( not power hungry really but to acquire power and strength to learn all capabilities of spirit) and lost control of her power and ended up releasing it onto the world and caused the end of the world. I woke up like , now where did that idea come from. lol

Peace love n VA wrote:

SecretMagic wrote:

I actually don't think Adrian could get that way. I agree that Lissa could, but Adrian doesn't have the same desire to learn more talents/explore as much as Lissa. He wants to know the full extent of his powers, but he's sort of content to let them come to him. I mean, I know in Shadow Kiss he was really determined to learn to heal, but Lissa was going half crazy at not being able to learn. Adrian was calmer about it all, so I don't think he'd ever be controlled by spirit the way Lissa and Avery are sometimes.

Kim, ur ideas are starting to plague my dreams. Last night I had this super weird dream about Lissa going extreme power crazy ( not power hungry really but to acquire power and strength to learn all capabilities of spirit) and lost control of her power and ended up releasing it onto the world and caused the end of the world. I woke up like , now where did that idea come from. lol

lol, I'm so sorry Tasha. But at least you're having some cool dreams really.

now that would be something i would like to see.

hehe

Lol.

do u think there will be a reappearance of Avery? read a fan fic and it got me thinkin lol.

Honestly if she's become that insane so fast I don't think she'd consciously be able to reenter the story. However, they might revisit her somewhere. Who knows really. After reading VA I didn't think Victor was going to be all that important anymore, but he's held to be pretty damn important to the whole series so anything could happen with Avery.

SecretMagic wrote:

Honestly if she's become that insane so fast I don't think she'd consciously be able to reenter the story. However, they might revisit her somewhere. Who knows really. After reading VA I didn't think Victor was going to be all that important anymore, but he's held to be pretty damn important to the whole series so anything could happen with Avery.

well victor had a major change in shodow kissed like in the jail cell
he was like lissa could do the greater good and the future has major plans for her
but he wanted to have her heal him... i was like wth

I hope Avery comes back! She's one of my favorite characters! Personally if Dimitri ends up with Rose I want Avery and Adrian to get together and make little future spirit user babies!

Can we see Lissa go to mentally mutilate her, please?

Now what is the best way to describe Avery Lazur, T.V Tropes-style?

Depraved Bi-Sexual: Let's face it, she has to be bi because she tried to wipe out her own species, is manipulative without ample justification, not to mention all the glorious times in which Rose's comrades-at-arms should have actually saw her coming, which means that since bone-jumping leads to the purest magical augmentations, its safe to say she did it with other girls she controlled.
Your mileage may vary with how depraved she may be.


Always Chaotic Evil!: Remember, she murdered her own brother and didn't even get caught by the Furies, via Plot-Armor(Which i intend to discuss, some other thread!) with Spirit, as Rose and Company had to find out about that, the hard way.
What makes it worse is that she is further proof that once more, the most lethal threats to any society can come from both outside, and within, because she tried to have her entire species slain for very bad reasons.
Once more, your mileage may vary.

Poisonous Friend: Probably related to the first trope i listed out that didn't have an entry on her, whatsoever(as of yet!) but make no mistake, if you check the Vampire Academy section(Which needs updating by now!) you'll find Avery on that list, and i am quite surprised no one had struck her down, about as much surprised as i am when the Potter-World took too dang long to put Scumbridge in Azkaban, but that's another story.
She's poison to Rose and Company, in its entirety, because she wanted to break them mentally and psychologically before she goes in for the outright kill, and she started with the last Dragomir Princess, first(which in all honesty for me, was the last straw, but i digress, again!)

Rewarded as a traitor deserves:Oh, so very much this trope was gloriously fulfilled when she was driven further mad with abuse of Spirit, before she got to finish off the Academy which her father so very much weakened(thus rob Humanity in general of a vital buffer against the mess the Moroi Species' ancestors helped to create, in the first place!) she even betrayed her family, and from there her treachery gets all so much worse until finally the tip of the iceberg that is her comeuppance finally kicked in.


And that in itself may be the tip of the iceberg that is the extended list, really.