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PostSubject: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeSat Jan 17, 2009 11:35 am

With all the weird happenings barely alluded to, and slowly added to, we learn that some weird things were going on around Lissa. Was it the responsible thing to take Lissa, the last Dragomir, out in the world rather than try and get help from within the Moroi populace? And did Rose keep them safe by skill or happenstance? She mentions evading psyhounds (sp?) but we never learn how. And there was never a mention of Strigoi around (and we know that Dmitri beat her in sparring early on) so how would she have fared if they stumbled upon those killers?

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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeSun Jan 18, 2009 5:48 pm

I think she would have fared pretty well against a strigoi.
I mean, even though she was taken down by Dimitri, she knew he was a Guardian, and thus succumbed more easily.

But against a Strigoi? Theres a difference, there. Because adrenaline would have kicked in, to save Lissa from being turned. The most a Guardian could do, was take them back to the Academy, thus, they really weren't in THAT much danger.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeMon Jan 19, 2009 8:04 pm

But after all the training with Dmitri, Natalie took her rather easily. She was new to being Strigoi. Now take a seasoned Strigoi like we meet in Frostbite and take away Rose's training with Dmitri....see....Lissa wasn't as well protected physically as they all thought.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeWed Jan 21, 2009 9:11 pm

I think that she made a good choice. And Lissa wanted to leave too.

I think she would have protected Lissa from an attack... She would have survived, thats just how Rose is.


But I think she would have been smart to stay at the Academy. But either way it works.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeThu Jan 22, 2009 1:16 pm

I don't think it was very responsible of Rose to take Lissa out into the world. Wasn't she manipulated into doing do by that teacher who then turned into a Strigoi? She wouldn't be able to last two seconds with a Strigoi.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeFri Jan 30, 2009 3:36 am

I think she was and wasnt being responsible. Yes she was able to fight off psyhounds and keep lissa safe. But she wouldnt have known if there was going to be a different kind of attack on her and Lissa, and that is where I thinik she was being iresponsible [my spelling sucks]. She should have been thinking ahead.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeTue Mar 24, 2009 8:27 am

yes they should have but not as much to test the guards for her when she older
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeTue Mar 24, 2009 1:45 pm

Although Rose and Lissa's decisions were risky I feel like it was the right thing to do. Lissa needed a break from all the pressures and stress she was feeling from her environment at the academy, and who knows maybe if they had stayed she would have kept cutting herself or actually gone crazy and killed herself or gone strigoi...

Also I think by escaping for a while helped Rose grow up more, become a more capable guardian (maybe not skill-wise but mentally) and strengthen the bond between the two. They might not have gotten it to be so strong if they were in such a heavily watched and secure place. Remember, intense emotions were needed originally for Rose to sense Lissa...
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeTue Apr 14, 2009 3:09 pm

I have to agree I think what Rose did was the right thing to do
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PostSubject: Hmmmm   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeSat May 09, 2009 10:54 pm

Yes.. I think that Rose made the right desicion and was being responsible
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeSun May 10, 2009 3:43 pm

I think that, while it might not have been the most responsible thing, they did what they thought was right for them.

I mean, it's not like they felt they really could have said anything. It was risky, but they didn't die or get hurt. Isn't that really all that counts in the end?
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeFri Jun 12, 2009 1:28 pm

I think Rose did a HEALTHY thing for Lissa. Maybe not the RESPONSIBLE thing but sometimes you have to throw that out.
Lissa was getting SUPER depressed and the cutting and all that so she needed to get away for a while with the one person that could make her life easier.
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I'm not so sure she would have fared well if she BATTLED a Strigoi, but she probably would have figured something out.
Sorry if that makes little sense.. I tried.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeMon Jun 22, 2009 3:27 pm

I think Rose did the best she could out of the situation she was given. Rose would have died trying to protect Lissa. Just as in the book rose protects Lissa from a lot of things not just strigoi.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeThu Sep 03, 2009 12:03 pm

i think she had just as much of a chance as rose
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeSun Sep 06, 2009 12:18 pm

I think it's iffy personally. I think at the time, she felt she was making the best decision for them. I think she was responsible at the time, because she wasn't sure who she could trust. But looking back after learning things, it wasn't the best decision for Lissa, or even herself. She wasn't fully prepared for what could have potentially happened.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeSun Sep 13, 2009 2:51 am

Well, I don't think there's much debate that Rose and Lissa would both have died if they'd run into a Strigoi. Rose was out of shape and didn't have a stake nor any idea how to use one. Dimitri was completely right when he pointed out that if she couldn't handle her classmates fighting her, she would die against a Strigoi.

But I do think that Lissa's mental instability required some drastic action. Lissa had been going into a downward spiral since the car accident, and Rose knew that. Between spirit, her new popularity with the backstabbing 'in' crowd, and becoming an orphan and only child at the age of fifteen, Lissa was going to crash soon.

Overall, it was a sucky situation. And I think Rose did the best she could with it. Besides, with Mrs. Karp's lingering compulsion effects, she didn't have /that/ much of a choice.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeFri Dec 18, 2009 5:16 pm

Killarney wrote:
Well, I don't think there's much debate that Rose and Lissa would both have died if they'd run into a Strigoi. Rose was out of shape and didn't have a stake nor any idea how to use one. Dimitri was completely right when he pointed out that if she couldn't handle her classmates fighting her, she would die against a Strigoi.

But I do think that Lissa's mental instability required some drastic action. Lissa had been going into a downward spiral since the car accident, and Rose knew that. Between spirit, her new popularity with the backstabbing 'in' crowd, and becoming an orphan and only child at the age of fifteen, Lissa was going to crash soon.

Overall, it was a sucky situation. And I think Rose did the best she could with it. Besides, with Mrs. Karp's lingering compulsion effects, she didn't have /that/ much of a choice.

Agreed...i can't say i blame Rose for getting Lissa to make a run for it, but i can say that her position might have been so much stronger, had Rose trained harder, prior to the escape, that is. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeMon Dec 21, 2009 3:00 pm

I thought Rose was already one of the best novices in her grade pre-escape. What Mason says to her about a 'comeback' and the things Rose mentions like breaking that girl's arm in ninth grade all make me think that she was good for her age.

Not utterly fantastic. Not able to take on Strigoi. But good for her age.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeTue Jan 05, 2010 6:22 pm

I don't know if it was the responsible thing to do, but at the time, I'm sure they felt it was the right decision to make at the time and I can't really fault them for that.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeSun Feb 14, 2010 7:16 pm

rose and responsible just don't mix it's not her personality.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2010 7:36 am

JILL-JILLIAN-JUST JILL wrote:
rose and responsible just don't mix it's not her personality.

But Rose and duty, on the other hand...would they have mixed with the Renegade that Rose is?
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2010 9:15 am

Definitely rose knows her duty though she is beginning to question much of which she was taught/ brainwashed by th academy.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2010 3:16 pm

I think Rose does now her duty and she was trying to do so when she ran away with Lissa. But I do think she should have gone to someone and asked for help. Rose may of had some training but not enough to come face to face with a Strigio.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2010 7:30 pm

she was definitely not ready to deal with a strigoi but remember at the time they ran away they didn't know who the can trust other than themselves so I think she made the best decision possible with the situation they were given.
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PostSubject: Re: Was Rose Being Responsible?   Was Rose Being Responsible? Icon_minitimeTue Feb 16, 2010 4:12 am

When does Rose dine in hell?
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