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Would you have turned? DIE or STRIGOI?
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Aurora_Lumi

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OK…. Be honest with me! How many of you out there consider to be turned if you we’re Rose?
Did it even cross your mind?
Do you still think you would have turned?
If you had the choice to die or turn into a Strigoi what would you do?

Personally, after reading the book I realized (and not only from this book) that the society of the Moroi don’t have (or hides) the real facts on the Strigoi… they made them sound like heartless zombies that only want to kill and has no personal feelings. But From reading the way Dimitri handled Rose this claim is half of the truth. Dimitri did have a heart beat, he remembered everything about Rose (her likes and dislikes), wanted her to be by his side, and etc. It’s like if you turn into a Strigoi you don’t lose your self… or soul... you just have a different way of thinking. But of course Dimitri did have a very evil way of thinking! Would you be able to live with that? Did Dimitri still love her? Or was it more of a fatal attraction?
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Yeah, i totally agree with you. I would definitely think of going strigoi if i had a choice between death and turning. i really don't think it'd be that bad... eternity with dimitri sounds pretty appealing to me Wink


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If I have to be completely honest, I think I would choose immortality with the man I loved rather than dying. Even if the immortality came with several things attached.
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smae here if i had to choose between death and immortality it would be immortality .
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It would depend on the situation for me. If I knew what I was going to become by choosing immortality I probably wouldn't want it. To lose what makes you you wouldn't exactly be fun. Though you'd lose yourself entirely if you died at least you'd know you left the world as yourself, and didn't linger in a space between life and death for the rest of eternity. Never to see the light again, never to feel 'human'

I disagree with you Aurora_Lumi, I do think you lose yourself and your soul. Dimitri may have kept his memories and the majority of his appearance, and may have managed to display similar emotions to his old life, but by changing the way he thinks he changed himself.

That being said I have no idea which option I'd choose and under the sort of circumstances Rose faced I'd probably be more likely to fold early on and pick immortality. Fear makes you do surprising things in life.
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i agree with magicsecret i tink i would choose immortaily to be with the one i loved....but idk if it meet being a STRIGOI i dont know it owuld have to depend on the situation...and yeah i agree i dont think strigoi have there souls i think that they loose them..and there just dangerous.
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I would have chosen to die rather then become a strigoi. I wouldn't want to be around in the world and be able to hear about Lissa and the acadmy and everyone there but not be able to see her again. I know Rose loves Dimka a lot but i don't think she could have stayed around on the same planet as Lissa and not be able to see her. Their bond was still strong...
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I totally would turn sigroi to be with Dimitri. I believe Rose and Dimitri are soul mates sort of speak. When you find that you do what you have to to hold on to that. Me I probably wouldnt have left that palace she was in with Dimitri. I dont think I could kill him. We'll see what happens. But man May is so far away. Crying or Very sad
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I would say turn Strigoi but, then she would be risking Lissa's life. From reading the books, Rose would never want to do that to Lissa even, during a fight. If Rose didn't have such a strong friendship and the bond then I'd think she'd turn Strigoi to be with Dimitri.
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Rose turning Strigoi sounds like a twisted version of Twilight (and I strongly disapproved of Bella turning vampire, it was the ultimate cowardice) but this woulda been much worse. At least Bella was stupid, I didn't expect more of her, and she also didn't turn back on her beliefs and willingly choose to be a killer. Rose turning Strigoi would have meant just that. While Dimitri didn't have a conscience anymore and was okay with killing people, Rose still had hers and she couldn't have coped with such things, it wasn't in her nature. It's not a matter of simply choosing between death and immortality with the man you love, it sounds all easy and peachy if you word it like that. It's giving up everything that makes you yourself together with embracing everything that you've ever fought against. And for what? A lie, a sad illusion of happiness. Dimitri wasn't Dimitri. He did love her but he was still a monster in many many ways. He wasn't that wise, noble, kind man that she fell in love with, not anymore. Or not yet. Smile

So I would have never agreed to become a Strigoi. But I couldn't live without him either so, in lack of a solution, death wouldn't sound so bad, I guess. Although it would be a selfish death since, if I were in Rose's place, Lissa and the others would still need me so much.
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Magdalene wrote:
Rose turning Strigoi sounds like a twisted version of Twilight (and I strongly disapproved of Bella turning vampire, it was the ultimate cowardice) but this woulda been much worse. At least Bella was stupid, I didn't expect more of her, and she also didn't turn back on her beliefs and willingly choose to be a killer. Rose turning Strigoi would have meant just that. While Dimitri didn't have a conscience anymore and was okay with killing people, Rose still had hers and she couldn't have coped with such things, it wasn't in her nature. It's not a matter of simply choosing between death and immortality with the man you love, it sounds all easy and peachy if you word it like that. It's giving up everything that makes you yourself together with embracing everything that you've ever fought against. And for what? A lie, a sad illusion of happiness. Dimitri wasn't Dimitri. He did love her but he was still a monster in many many ways. He wasn't that wise, noble, kind man that she fell in love with, not anymore. Or not yet. Smile

So I would have never agreed to become a Strigoi. But I couldn't live without him either so, in lack of a solution, death wouldn't sound so bad, I guess. Although it would be a selfish death since, if I were in Rose's place, Lissa and the others would still need me so much.

Agreed.
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To be honest, I don't think Strigoi are as bad as everyone makes out. Their lifestyle choice of how they eat etc etc. Christian lived with his parents for a long time before leaving. We have seen through Dimitri that he is still in some ways himself to an extent. I'm hopefull though, what can i say.

I'd rather be Strigoi than die without Dimitri. Not that I dislike Lissa, but Rose needs to put herself ahead of Lissa sometimes. Do something for herself.
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I don't think I'd become a Strigoi. Honestly, the entire time she was with Dimitri, I was angry. I wanted her to hurry up and get out of there, and then save Lissa, and learn of a new way to save Dimitri. I love Dimitri and Rose together, and I was so happy when he wasn't killed. I had a huge crying fit at the end of Shadow Kiss, as sad as it is, and I just got angry as Rose began to fall for his tricks. I don't believe he truly loved her as a Strigoi, and I keep thinking about what will happen when he is saved (I have a feeling she won't kill him off) I wonder... How awkward will that be for them? 'Hey, sorry I did all that to you and you know, completely tore your heart apart in my attempt to turn you into one of the eternal damned. It's nothing personal, just evil crap, you know? But, hey, I'm a dhampir again, and we can go on like before. If we're lucky, maybe Tatiana will get kicked off the throne and Lissa can replace her, right? Cuz she's totally ready to be queen of an entire world-wide vampire community.' No. But, that is something I'm worried about. Lissa, and Tatiana. Lissa, I don't think, is capable of taking over, and someone has to. If I had to choose, I'd choose Adrian to rule, because he's the only good royal around. But, then, he's kinda not very suited for the job, is he? I wonder... Question
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i would go strigoi but feed off animals duh why not, dont mean to sound twilight but seriously come on you can choose here's a good poll eat moroi and humans andd damphirs or animals
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rozaluvsdimka4eva wrote:
i would go strigoi but feed off animals duh why not, dont mean to sound twilight but seriously come on you can choose here's a good poll eat moroi and humans andd damphirs or animals
I'm not sure it's that simple really. They don't see the world that way. Strigoi know they need blood to live and the easiest food source are humans. Even Moroi know that, hence the feeders. Since most of the strigoi were once Moroi or Dhampirs they're not exactly new to the idea of drinking blood. They don't really have a problem with it.
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Rose turning Strigoi sounds like a twisted version of Twilight (and I strongly disapproved of Bella turning vampire, it was the ultimate cowardice) but this woulda been much worse. At least Bella was stupid, I didn't expect more of her, and she also didn't turn back on her beliefs and willingly choose to be a killer. Rose turning Strigoi would have meant just that. While Dimitri didn't have a conscience anymore and was okay with killing people, Rose still had hers and she couldn't have coped with such things, it wasn't in her nature. It's not a matter of simply choosing between death and immortality with the man you love, it sounds all easy and peachy if you word it like that. It's giving up everything that makes you yourself together with embracing everything that you've ever fought against. And for what? A lie, a sad illusion of happiness. Dimitri wasn't Dimitri. He did love her but he was still a monster in many many ways. He wasn't that wise, noble, kind man that she fell in love with, not anymore. Or not yet.

So I would have never agreed to become a Strigoi. But I couldn't live without him either so, in lack of a solution, death wouldn't sound so bad, I guess. Although it would be a selfish death since, if I were in Rose's place, Lissa and the others would still need me so much.
This I do not agree with. Rose understands that
I agree with this

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How awkward will that be for them? 'Hey, sorry I did all that to you and you know, completely tore your heart apart in my attempt to turn you into one of the eternal damned. It's nothing personal, just evil crap, you know? But, hey, I'm a dhampir again, and we can go on like before.
I do not agree with this. I get what you mean that would be odd, but Rose knows that he is not really him. She knows what happens when people turn, and once he is back to his normal loving self, I think she will realize that that was not him and forgive what he had done to her.
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If I had to choose, I'd choose Adrian to rule, because he's the only good royal around. But, then, he's kinda not very suited for the job, is he? I wonder... Question

I love Lissa but i think she is more of public speaker type than a ruling type. She is more suited for lobbying and promoting and talking to people sort of thing. I feel Tasha would make a good ruler. She is even a royal.

I agree with alot Kim is saying. Who knows what you will do when your in love- and who knows what your going to do when your in fear. It's easy to say you have morals and values and all that -but honestly in those types of situations thinking rationality and seeing your options aren't always easy...especially dealing with the grief of your loved one. I don't think it's as simple as drinking animal blood. I always wondered though instead of biting why can't they have donated bagged blood?

As much as i loved Dimitri and Rose, i would be kinda upset if they find a cure for him and then they get back together like nothing happened. Dimitri used to sit in church and fight his demons from previous killings and he did that to survive. Turning back now i think will only have a negative impact on him. I think it will be anti-climactic if Dimitri is restored to his old self and then they move on happily ever after....to me it's like ...really?
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I agree with you up until that last part. I want R and D to be back together mostly because I CANT see R with Adrian. No
I bet something will happen if they do get back together. What?- is the question. Question Question
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Peace love n VA wrote:
I love Lissa but i think she is more of public speaker type than a ruling type. She is more suited for lobbying and promoting and talking to people sort of thing. I feel Tasha would make a good ruler. She is even a royal.

I agree with alot Kim is saying. Who knows what you will do when your in love- and who knows what your going to do when your in fear. It's easy to say you have morals and values and all that -but honestly in those types of situations thinking rationality and seeing your options aren't always easy...especially dealing with the grief of your loved one. I don't think it's as simple as drinking animal blood. I always wondered though instead of biting why can't they have donated bagged blood?

As much as i loved Dimitri and Rose, i would be kinda upset if they find a cure for him and then they get back together like nothing happened. Dimitri used to sit in church and fight his demons from previous killings and he did that to survive. Turning back now i think will only have a negative impact on him. I think it will be anti-climactic if Dimitri is restored to his old self and then they move on happily ever after....to me it's like ...really?
I've never been a fan of "Lissa for Queen" I think she's way too emotional for the job. She might have good people skills and might be loved by all, but can she make tough decisions that have the possibility of hurting a lot of people at once? I can't see her wanting to do that sort of thing. She'd have a lot of trouble making the right decidions for the majority.

I think there's a certain thrill for them in hunting their prey. If you can't go out during the day, can't eat "normal" food, can't feel "alive" anymore, why would you settle for something as mundane as bagged blood?

I reckon there would have to be negative side-effects to Dimitri being saved. If he turned out to accept it all too easily (after, as you said, he's spent so much time battling to keep himself in control and not let the lives he's taken cause him to forget the good he's done), then it'd would be our dimitri.
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RandD4ever, i *do * want Rose and Dimitri to be together but i just don't see how they can have a healthy relationship. I hope RM finds a way to make it work. But i just don't want it to be as simple as Dimitri is turned back to his old self and they resume happily ever after- because, in my opinion, that's not Dimitri. The Dimitri we know and love will have a hard time accepting all the bad he had done. You know what i mean? I just don't want a corny happily ever after- but i do want a happily ever after.

And i firmly believe if Rose and Dimitri doesn't end up together- it doesnt have to be one or the other. I don't think she will be with Adrian just cause she isn't with Dimitri and thats fine to me. Dimitri was her love and i wouldn't mind her staying alone u know?
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Peace love n VA wrote:
RandD4ever, i *do * want Rose and Dimitri to be together but i just don't see how they can have a healthy relationship. I hope RM finds a way to make it work. But i just don't want it to be as simple as Dimitri is turned back to his old self and they resume happily ever after- because, in my opinion, that's not Dimitri. The Dimitri we know and love will have a hard time accepting all the bad he had done. You know what i mean? I just don't want a corny happily ever after- but i do want a happily ever after.

And i firmly believe if Rose and Dimitri doesn't end up together- it doesnt have to be one or the other. I don't think she will be with Adrian just cause she isn't with Dimitri and thats fine to me. Dimitri was her love and i wouldn't mind her staying alone u know?

Yeah...

Ya know, I was wondering if he would come back as part Shadow-Kissed. If he did then Rose could help him get through it, which she would help him get through whatever depression he would be in from being a Strigoi. I wonder if Dimitri does come back and describes being Strigoi as being a puppet-- like Rose felt when she had her break-down. Question scratch Question
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I dont think Strigoi come back as Shadow kissed.

In VA world- someone dies and they pass. They can become ghost and linger. But they are still dead even as ghost forms.

Strigoi they aren't really dead- or Rose would be able to see them as ghost forms or something. They are alive to certain extent and walk the earth. I don't think restoring them with spirit will cause them to be shadow kissed.

What confuses me and messes up theory is Rose's "side effect" of sensing when Strigoi are around.

So i'm confused. scratch
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Peace love n VA wrote:
I dont think Strigoi come back as Shadow kissed.

In VA world- someone dies and they pass. They can become ghost and linger. But they are still dead even as ghost forms.

Strigoi they aren't really dead- or Rose would be able to see them as ghost forms or something. They are alive to certain extent and walk the earth. I don't think restoring them with spirit will cause them to be shadow kissed.

What confuses me and messes up theory is Rose's "side effect" of sensing when Strigoi are around.

So i'm confused. scratch
I think it's more because they're closer to being dead than they are to being alive. They're without life (aka. the spirit/soul) but they're still "alive". So she can sense them because they're not exactly living. But I agree with you, I don't think they'd become shadow-kissed.
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