Discussions About Blood Promise with Spoilers (Those who have read it only)

Lil_Dhampir wrote:

SecretMagic wrote:

genna wrote:

That and when he fell off the bridge after saying "I was supposed to say that", I thought that brief moment showed that he realized something. Could be my imagination of course... lol

I thought it too, and then thought it was kind of sweet (though completely evil in the whole context of the thing) when he signed the note "Love D"...he remembered!

I think he put "love" this time as a taunt. It didn't sound romantic at all, but chilling lol.

Yeah, I know. I kind of recognised it as a taunt too, but I'm chosing to look at if from both directions

The third is Karolina

SecretMagic wrote:

Lil_Dhampir wrote:

SecretMagic wrote:

genna wrote:

That and when he fell off the bridge after saying "I was supposed to say that", I thought that brief moment showed that he realized something. Could be my imagination of course... lol

I thought it too, and then thought it was kind of sweet (though completely evil in the whole context of the thing) when he signed the note "Love D"...he remembered!

I think he put "love" this time as a taunt. It didn't sound romantic at all, but chilling lol.

Yeah, I know. I kind of recognised it as a taunt too, but I'm chosing to look at if from both directions

The third is Karolina

Hahha I understand that totally. Who knows where the story will go from here lol.

I love how when Rose gets the stake, she's all like two months. I bet if she never made the promise to her mom that she'd run and stake him again.

I also love how Rose gets to understand her mother better.

As for Dimitri, I still hold hope for him. Yes he was a wickedly evil strigoi but, I don't hold him to it.

But if you notice all the 'Dimitri' moments when was a Stigori were when he was in contact with something thats infused with Mori magic. Like the ring, or the stake.

When they were talking about his family Rose notices it is the only conversation they have had that wasnt about becoming a Stigori or him teasing her about the cabin. If you read all the other conversations he is quite ubrupt and uncaring.

It's the ring, and then the stage on the bridge that gives up glimpes of the old Dimitri, which makes me think thats going to play a big part in the next book.

I don't think it's just items infused with Mori magic that brought out the old Dimitri, although it was obvious that those items were important. Dimitri had to have cared about Rose somewhat for him to have avoided her. When Rose told him she came Russia to find him, he said "I came here to get away from you," so "we wouldn't be in this situation. Now we are, and the choice is inevitable,"

Well, guys... Wow. Strong opinions, everyone. And all of them sup´ported by evidence. But I think Strigoi really keep something of themselves. Think about Cristian's parents. A child was just a liability, they were risking their existence. And yet, they went back for him. They were gonna wait for him. Why? Because they loved him. Because their instincts to take care of him were still there, deep down. Dimka might want Rose for all the wrong reasons, but that's just because he can't want her the right way anymore. So he does the next best thing, and you know what, guys? That's good enough for me.
Of course Adrian looks better! He is not a freaking evil creature of the night! He's still Adrian! What we need to remember is that Dimka is dead - for now. Dimitri lost the good part of him when he turned, and when you see it that way, why can't Spirit give it back? To him and to Rose?

Guys, I noticed too that in VA, Rose asks about Dimka's family and he tells her he has two sisters only, but he actually has three. Why? I think RM messed up.

okay i have some more questions
Dimitri sent the stake to Rose in a package but how he is a strigoi he can't touch stakes for the same reason they can't cross wards they are infuzed with life and moroi magic so how did he send it to her

They can't touch objects infuzed with life so how did he touch the ring it had spirit in it and it seems to me that spirit holds the most life of all the elements so how can he hold it for so long hmm tricky tricky

He could've just touched it through a cloth or something. And the ring's magic wasn't too strong, remember?

The ring was also fused with Spirit and Spirit is a whole element uncharted so charmed things of Spirit may not have the effect the others do.

Also I may be in a small group after reading some comments but I wanted Rose to be with Dimitri Strigoi well...until I realized he wasn't doing it out of love it was more so he knew Rose could get him further as a Strigoi. I knew when I saw Abe's name her was her father because I was thinking her fathers name was Abraham not Ibraham.

lizzyvamp1901 wrote:

He could've just touched it through a cloth or something. And the ring's magic wasn't too strong, remember?

Some of us thought about that already...if it was that easy for Strigoi to touch stakes (through cloth or something) then they wouldn't need humans to stake wards, and they'd be crossing them more frequently.

True... and didn't Rose say something about how when Dimitri fell that the stake wasn't in all the way and could have fallen out?

RandD4ever wrote:

True... and didn't Rose say something about how when Dimitri fell that the stake wasn't in all the way and could have fallen out?

OMG. Just finished it. WOW!

I get the feeling he might have had an accomplice. Even if the stake had fallen out he would had to pick it up and package it up to send it to Rose.

Avery turning out to be evil wasn't something I picked up early. Too focused on the Dimitri side of things.

madii wrote:

okay i have some more questions
Dimitri sent the stake to Rose in a package but how he is a strigoi he can't touch stakes for the same reason they can't cross wards they are infuzed with life and moroi magic so how did he send it to her

They can't touch objects infuzed with life so how did he touch the ring it had spirit in it and it seems to me that spirit holds the most life of all the elements so how can he hold it for so long hmm tricky tricky

Oh wow. I never noticed that. I forgot all about the Strigoi-cant-touch-stakes thing.
Either Dimitri must be some special kind of Strigoi (which I doubt) or Richelle messed up on that part. =/

Dimitri may have got a human to touch the stake or put it in the message.

If the ring was based to be something to bring Strigoi to life then of course they will be able to touch them. As for the stake Dimitri cold have used compulsion on a human he could have even gone back to the hose where he kept Rose and get one of those humans to get it from him.

See, I don't think Dimitri used someone else to get it out, because then that would mean he'd have to stand around with this silver stake sticking out of his chest until he found someone...all while the silver's still affecting him. Even if it didn't hit his heart exactly, it'd still sting. I reckon he braced himself and just pulled it out.

SecretMagic wrote:

See, I don't think Dimitri used someone else to get it out, because then that would mean he'd have to stand around with this silver stake sticking out of his chest until he found someone...all while the silver's still affecting him. Even if it didn't hit his heart exactly, it'd still sting. I reckon he braced himself and just pulled it out.

he did fall into the water which could have knocked loose enough that when he stood up it fell out

He could have, but then he decided to pull it out of the water? I mean, I know he sent it off to Rose, but I reckon while he was actually in the water he wouldn't be thinking about keeping the stake and sending it off to Rose he'd just be thinking about getting it out of himself. It would only be after he got it out that he might have considered sending it off to her. Therefore he'd have had to go back and get the stake out of the water.

I don't know it could have washed up near him and thats when he got the idea

I suppose all ideas could work...who knows really. We'll just have to wait for someone to ask RM

Maybe D is just a super badass n was strong enough to get the stake out himself.

L.Dragomir wrote:

Maybe D is just a super badass n was strong enough to get the stake out himself.

Maybe but, I highly doubt Dimitri could do that. Most likely he had help from a human or something along those lines.

L.Dragomir wrote:

Maybe D is just a super badass n was strong enough to get the stake out himself.

I think that's possible. Dimitri's pretty different from the normal strigoi.

Although I'm wondering if RM might not have thought about how Dimitri got the stake out when she was writing... but I guess it doesn't really matter that much, it's just a little detail that can be explained easily, if needed.

I often wonder that about all authors, not just RM, whether they realise how much thought fans put into analysing their books. But it seems as though the whole stake thing would have to have crossed her mind. I reckon Dimitri pulled it out himself, I still don't think he would have bothered to look for someone in order to get it out of his chest.