The Ending....Foreshadowed? (spoilery)

I remembered the passing comment that a Guardian had gone off to hunt Ms. Karp specifically once she became Strigoi and how Rose took it so shockingly when she found out the Guardian was Ms. Karp's lover. It was then that I started dreading the future of Dmitri Belikov. The entire book I kept reading and looking for that name to make sure it was still being mentioned. Killing him off, while Adrian was around, would be too convenient. But making him Strigoi, was foreshadowed.

But if Christian lived with his parents for a while after they turned Strigoi, then clearly they are not killing machines like the Moroi make them out to be. So is there hope for our comrade?

I certainly hope theres hope!
I would be so fricken angry, if there wasn't.
They just got established-- they were finally stable, and knew what the other wanted.
I think its just a step further, to test their relationship.

you guys kno how in HoN the "dead" fledglings came back as red fledglings, so what if Richelle made a way to reverse the strigoi transformations? that would be so muych cooler than her staying with him even tho hes strigoi or her killing him. i dont think i could handle it if she killed him and i dont think that she'll be able to kill him. i think that she'll get there and see him then she'll freeze and either he or another strigoi with him will kill her.

I wonder what happened to Ms. Karp and her boyfriend...Alexander was it?

I totally agree. I also looked to see if Dimetri was at the end of the book. Lol! Also, the conversation that Rose and Dimetri had on the bus also made me uneasy...looks like Rose is going to follow through (or at least attempt to) with what Dimetri's wishes were. I wonder if Rose will meet the Guardian (Alexander) on her quest to find Dimetri...they would certainly have lots to relate to.

jedibarrister wrote:

I wonder what happened to Ms. Karp and her boyfriend...Alexander was it?

ms.karp was killed but it didnt say if her boyfriend did it

I don't remember any mention of Andrew killing Ms. Karp. What page is that on? Last I thought any Guardians heard was that he went after her.

I really hope that there is some hope for Dimitri [that sounds funny]. Any ways, like someone mentioned they had just had everything planned, they could be together, and then all that crap happens to him. I mean he has to be able to be himself. [at least a little.]

Dimitris_girl77 wrote:

I really hope that there is some hope for Dimitri [that sounds funny]. Any ways, like someone mentioned they had just had everything planned, they could be together, and then all that crap happens to him. I mean he has to be able to be himself. [at least a little.]

you're right. my riends and i all think that it'll ruin the series if they dont end up together. Like i just love Adrian but Rose is supposed to be with Dimitri.

OMG I just finished the book... Im still crying... I mean, Dimitri and Rose are so perfect.... I just cant imagine them not being together... I hope there is some kind of hope...

I, too, was not happy that Dimitri and Rose were separated. They really do complete each other. (And 7 years isn't all THAT big of a difference). I keep hoping that because Mason was like on the edge of 'finding peace' that he's wrong. I hope he was wrong and that Dimitri is NOT a Strigoi. Even better would be a means of reversing the process of being Strigoi.

Or that Strigoi can choose not to kill. In Buffyverse, the evil vampires don't care about right and wrong b/c they're soulless. I'm not convinced that the Strigoi are soulless just b/c the Moroi say so. Victor's niece was loyal...Christian's parents.

That makes sense. What would that mean for their society? If Dimitri really became Strigoi (which I'm not convinced that he is. I still think Mason could be wrong), would he be able to reproduce with a Dhampir? Or are they devoid of life, like how when Moroi turn Strigoi they lose their magic because it is from life?

I wonder, too...wasn't it drilled into Rose (and other novices), that basically Strigoi are not to be trusted? That they will use say 'knowing you' as a means to soften your defenses. And that a guardian shouldn't even listen to a Strigoi, just stake them. I really do seem to remember this warning given to Rose by Dimitri. And I wonder what Rose would do? At the end of the book she says, "I'm going to kill the man that I love"...but when push comes to shove, do you think she would?

Dmitri basically warned Rose that she'd freeze if she ran into a Strigoi she knew. The blondie didn't freeze her b/c she didn't remember him. But Natalie (?) at the holding cell totally made her pause a bit too long.

Good point. And Natalie was just a friend. Dimitri was her mentor and lover. I really really hope Mason was wrong!

Speaking of Natalie... Doesn't it seem odd that, even after becoming Strigoi, she was still faithful towards her father? And, even though Christian's parents attacked their own family (Tasha), they still cared for Christian. I mean, they didn't want to hurt him, they wanted to keep him and change him. Could that give us a little hope? Maybe Dimitri isn't one hundred percent monster (yet).
But I don't believe in an ending where Rose turns Strigoi as well, to be with him. It would be way too Stephenie Meyer, first of all, it doesn't seem Richelle's style. Secondly, it wouldn't go well at all with the whole story.

I don't see Rose turning Strigoi either. I don't want Dimitri to be evil/undead/whatever. What would be wrong with a happy ending? Rose and Dimitri belong together.

Ballroomdancer13 wrote:

What would be wrong with a happy ending? Rose and Dimitri belong together.

Unless Richelle intends to go "deep life lesson" on us. Teach us about the beauty of sacrifice and the tragedy of love loss and such stuff. God, I hope not!

There is more than enough of that "deep life lesson" stuff in real life. I read these kinds of books to escape!

I do hope Richelle ends the series with Rose and Dimitri together. It would be a huge dissapointment if not. I agree that there are way to many "life lessons" in the real world and i think all of us read these stories to escape.

If Dimitri has been turned Strigoi i was thinking that he would not kill Rose when she finds him and that Rose DEFINATELY wont kill him. That maybe Lissa, Christian and Adrian will find her and help. That maybe between Lissa and Adrian they can find a way to reverse the Stigoi in Dimitri and it will just show even more how much Adrian would do anything for Rose by giving her what she wants the most.... Dimitri.. and sacraficing what he wants the most... Rose.

Maybe they will find a way of instead of killing the Strigoi that they could reverse it for all the people who have been turned agaisnt thier will.... but maybe thats wishing for too much of a happy ending.

The only thing is, IF Dimitri was turned...he may ask or beg Rose to kill him. I seem to recall a conversation like that between them. It was related to the Mrs. Karp thing. The upshot of the conversation was, "the best thing you can do for a Strigoi is to stake them". (I'm assuming that was for Strigoi that were changed against their will.)

You made a good point there about Adrian and Lissa saving Dimitri using spirit and that Adrian would be giving Rose what she wants most at the cost of his own happiness. I just wonder though, does anyone think Rose could be happy with Adrian? Like would she learn to love him in time if she couldn't have Dimitri?

Those are what ifs...if Richelle is smart, she will make it so Rose and Dimitri can live happily ever after. LOL! Yes, I am a sap that way. I want a happy ending damnit!

I wonder how much of the "Strigoi are Soulless" propaganda is just that...propaganda.

As much as i love Dimitri, im thinking he's going to die...
as much as i hate it, it was a great cliff-hanger/plot twist...although when he and Rose had the discussion in the car about them wanting to be killed if they turned strigoi, the first thing that popped in my head was- dimitri is going to turn.

not to mention, i was so pissed with the happily ever after crap Meyer put us through, that i am more than happy to have some death and sadness in my series lol.

i would be happy if she ended up w/ Adrian, but just as satisfied if not more if there was a way for her to be w/ Dimitri...
*I really like the theory that they aren't all soulless as they are made out to be. *
^^^ hopes for that =]

I was on Richelle Meade's webpage and she said in a sentence " I do love my Rose and Dimetri" that gave me hope that somehow Dimetri can still be saved. Either by the way that Rose is somehow connected to the world of the dead and if she can find Dimetri before the 40 days combined with their love (like Christain parents still loved him) she can somehow enter that world brifly to bring his soul back to his body. I like the idea of Leissa and Adriane somehow showing up and with their combined powers are able to bring his soul back.

I just pray that somehow Richelle has it all worked out that Rose and Dimetri are together in the end doing what they love (being Guardians) and having a life together and putting themselves first when not working. You can't build up to a love like that, give us a taste and then ripe Rose's and our hearts out in the end.

I need a happy ending. I'm a sap that way.

Dmitri not Dimetri
Lissa not Leissa

I hope for a happy ending too.